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Incorrect clearance and radar vectoring provided flight crew by center controller. Reporter suspected controller training in progress.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 360540 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lhy |
| State Reference | PA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 360540 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation other |
Narrative:
Location: ese lhy. During departure climb vectors out of hpn, controller instructed us to turn 15 degrees right and intercept J87, on course. Flight plan and clearance was for J36. After 3 or 4 unanswered calls to center, he finally responded and apparently was confused as to our real clearance and filed route. After questioning, we were reclred direct to lhy and J36, flight plan route, etc. Controller was very busy and appeared to be in training as extremely long pauses between xmissions were occurring, etc. Our alleged intercept heading would never have taken us back to our real airway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INCORRECT CLRNC AND RADAR VECTORING PROVIDED FLC BY CTR CTLR. RPTR SUSPECTED CTLR TRAINING IN PROGRESS.
Narrative: LOCATION: ESE LHY. DURING DEP CLB VECTORS OUT OF HPN, CTLR INSTRUCTED US TO TURN 15 DEGS R AND INTERCEPT J87, ON COURSE. FLT PLAN AND CLRNC WAS FOR J36. AFTER 3 OR 4 UNANSWERED CALLS TO CTR, HE FINALLY RESPONDED AND APPARENTLY WAS CONFUSED AS TO OUR REAL CLRNC AND FILED RTE. AFTER QUESTIONING, WE WERE RECLRED DIRECT TO LHY AND J36, FLT PLAN RTE, ETC. CTLR WAS VERY BUSY AND APPEARED TO BE IN TRAINING AS EXTREMELY LONG PAUSES BTWN XMISSIONS WERE OCCURRING, ETC. OUR ALLEGED INTERCEPT HDG WOULD NEVER HAVE TAKEN US BACK TO OUR REAL AIRWAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.