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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 356790 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199612 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pit |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-400 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 356790 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Followed another aircraft past hold thinking it was ILS hold line, even though I had been to runway before. There was no interference and error was only slight. I had frequently noticed aircraft doing same. Runway 15 used mainly takeoff only. The setup is very screwy on that runway for no apparent reason. Why is so much runway wasted? 9 out of 10 times, I see aircraft starting takeoff roll from unauthorized place.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-400 CAPT ADMITS FOLLOWING ANOTHER ACFT PAST THE RWY 28C HOLD LINE AT PIT.
Narrative: FOLLOWED ANOTHER ACFT PAST HOLD THINKING IT WAS ILS HOLD LINE, EVEN THOUGH I HAD BEEN TO RWY BEFORE. THERE WAS NO INTERFERENCE AND ERROR WAS ONLY SLIGHT. I HAD FREQUENTLY NOTICED ACFT DOING SAME. RWY 15 USED MAINLY TKOF ONLY. THE SETUP IS VERY SCREWY ON THAT RWY FOR NO APPARENT REASON. WHY IS SO MUCH RWY WASTED? 9 OUT OF 10 TIMES, I SEE ACFT STARTING TKOF ROLL FROM UNAUTH PLACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.