Air carrier flight operations manual lists pushback procedures as only contacting the air carrier company operations. Then when contacting ground control, they were advised that the airport requires notifying ground control for information only. Reporter suggests that information be included in ATIS.

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Attributes
ACN	347265
Time
Date	199609
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : las
State Reference	NV
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-300
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	347265
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Airport
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
Airport	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Pushback from las international airport gate flight las-phl, sep/xx/96. Operations (airline) manual says ramp is not seen by ground control and to call operations for clearance to pushback. After push, and upon first contact with ground control for taxi, ground controller told us we should call for pushback to ground control before pushback. He also said the county requested this procedure and that ground would not deny pushback, but just needed to be informed of push. Possibly a message on ATIS, if some gate requires special procedures would be helpful.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR FLT OPS MANUAL LISTS PUSHBACK PROCS AS ONLY CONTACTING THE ACR COMPANY OPS. THEN WHEN CONTACTING GND CTL, THEY WERE ADVISED THAT THE ARPT REQUIRES NOTIFYING GND CTL FOR INFO ONLY. RPTR SUGGESTS THAT INFO BE INCLUDED IN ATIS.

Narrative: PUSHBACK FROM LAS INTL ARPT GATE FLT LAS-PHL, SEP/XX/96. OPS (AIRLINE) MANUAL SAYS RAMP IS NOT SEEN BY GND CTL AND TO CALL OPS FOR CLRNC TO PUSHBACK. AFTER PUSH, AND UPON FIRST CONTACT WITH GND CTL FOR TAXI, GND CTLR TOLD US WE SHOULD CALL FOR PUSHBACK TO GND CTL BEFORE PUSHBACK. HE ALSO SAID THE COUNTY REQUESTED THIS PROC AND THAT GND WOULD NOT DENY PUSHBACK, BUT JUST NEEDED TO BE INFORMED OF PUSH. POSSIBLY A MESSAGE ON ATIS, IF SOME GATE REQUIRES SPECIAL PROCS WOULD BE HELPFUL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.