Aircraft crosses fuelr intersection 300 ft low during lax ILS approach.

Attributes
ACN	345411
Time
Date	199608
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 7700 msl bound upper : 8000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 30000 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	345411
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Approaching fuelr intersection, cleared for approach runway 25L at lax, controller advised of traffic at 10 O'clock. While looking descended slightly below 8000 ft crossing restr altitude at fuelr intersection. No traffic conflict and VFR, just prior we had a TCASII warning on previous traffic, so we were concerned with visually looking for traffic at the time, also first officer was manually flying the aircraft. I should have been watching the first officer more closely, even though we were VFR. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter sent in report because the approach controller was critical of their altitude crossing over fueler. Reporter felt unprofessional at not watching the PF more closely. Reporter feels that if the controller had cleared them for the approach but comply with all crossing altitudes, it would have 'raised a red flag, which would prevent an altitude deviation.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACFT CROSSES FUELR INTXN 300 FT LOW DURING LAX ILS APCH.

Narrative: APCHING FUELR INTXN, CLRED FOR APCH RWY 25L AT LAX, CTLR ADVISED OF TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK. WHILE LOOKING DSNDED SLIGHTLY BELOW 8000 FT XING RESTR ALT AT FUELR INTXN. NO TFC CONFLICT AND VFR, JUST PRIOR WE HAD A TCASII WARNING ON PREVIOUS TFC, SO WE WERE CONCERNED WITH VISUALLY LOOKING FOR TFC AT THE TIME, ALSO FO WAS MANUALLY FLYING THE ACFT. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE FO MORE CLOSELY, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE VFR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR SENT IN RPT BECAUSE THE APCH CTLR WAS CRITICAL OF THEIR ALT XING OVER FUELER. RPTR FELT UNPROFESSIONAL AT NOT WATCHING THE PF MORE CLOSELY. RPTR FEELS THAT IF THE CTLR HAD CLRED THEM FOR THE APCH BUT COMPLY WITH ALL XING ALTS, IT WOULD HAVE 'RAISED A RED FLAG, WHICH WOULD PREVENT AN ALTDEV.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.