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Westwind 1124 corp aircraft enters class B without clearance. Confusion when thought cleared to enter then told remain outside class B.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 339460 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jqf |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | IAI1124/1124A/Westwind |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 95 flight time total : 6410 flight time type : 550 |
| ASRS Report | 339460 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Inadvertent entry into class B without clearance. Initial radio contact established with departure control outside of class B airspace. I understood that we were cleared to enter class B, and I climbed and turned to enter. A second communication told us to remain outside of class B, so we started back down below the class B. However, class B was entered without apparent clearance. No conflicts arose and clearance was again confirmed. Mission proceeded with no further problems. I should have been more positive about original clearance to enter the class B. There was obvious misunderstanding between the controller and ourselves as to intention and clrncs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WESTWIND 1124 CORP ACFT ENTERS CLASS B WITHOUT CLRNC. CONFUSION WHEN THOUGHT CLRED TO ENTER THEN TOLD REMAIN OUTSIDE CLASS B.
Narrative: INADVERTENT ENTRY INTO CLASS B WITHOUT CLRNC. INITIAL RADIO CONTACT ESTABLISHED WITH DEP CTL OUTSIDE OF CLASS B AIRSPACE. I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE CLRED TO ENTER CLASS B, AND I CLBED AND TURNED TO ENTER. A SECOND COM TOLD US TO REMAIN OUTSIDE OF CLASS B, SO WE STARTED BACK DOWN BELOW THE CLASS B. HOWEVER, CLASS B WAS ENTERED WITHOUT APPARENT CLRNC. NO CONFLICTS AROSE AND CLRNC WAS AGAIN CONFIRMED. MISSION PROCEEDED WITH NO FURTHER PROBS. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE POSITIVE ABOUT ORIGINAL CLRNC TO ENTER THE CLASS B. THERE WAS OBVIOUS MISUNDERSTANDING BTWN THE CTLR AND OURSELVES AS TO INTENTION AND CLRNCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.