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A bonanza instructor pilot reports that he may have entered suu's class D airspace without clearance. Training in progress.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 339250 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : o45 |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 2000 agl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : suu tracon : bur |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Bonanza 36 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 8100 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 339250 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approaching nut tree airport, with a student pilot, at the completion of a VFR cross country flight. The plan/procedure was to cross over the top of the airport at 2000 ft AGL. The student pilot made a wide sweeping right turn to cross over the top of the airport. This turn placed the airplane well to the east of the nut tree airport, 2-3 NM. I'm not totally sure that we penetrated the travis AFB class D airspace. In that I could not clearly verify it clearly by pilotage, I assumed the worst. Causes: 1) poor position and situational awareness by the student. 2) instructional supervision allowed too much latitude before directing a correction by the student.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BONANZA INSTRUCTOR PLT RPTS THAT HE MAY HAVE ENTERED SUU'S CLASS D AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC. TRAINING IN PROGRESS.
Narrative: APCHING NUT TREE ARPT, WITH A STUDENT PLT, AT THE COMPLETION OF A VFR XCOUNTRY FLT. THE PLAN/PROC WAS TO CROSS OVER THE TOP OF THE ARPT AT 2000 FT AGL. THE STUDENT PLT MADE A WIDE SWEEPING R TURN TO CROSS OVER THE TOP OF THE ARPT. THIS TURN PLACED THE AIRPLANE WELL TO THE E OF THE NUT TREE ARPT, 2-3 NM. I'M NOT TOTALLY SURE THAT WE PENETRATED THE TRAVIS AFB CLASS D AIRSPACE. IN THAT I COULD NOT CLRLY VERIFY IT CLRLY BY PILOTAGE, I ASSUMED THE WORST. CAUSES: 1) POOR POS AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS BY THE STUDENT. 2) INSTRUCTIONAL SUPERVISION ALLOWED TOO MUCH LATITUDE BEFORE DIRECTING A CORRECTION BY THE STUDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.