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Pre departure clearance confusion. Reporter captain asserts that the pre departure clearance specifically instructed to turn at 2 pt 3 DME to heading 220 degrees. Departure controller intervened immediately because of traffic conflict.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 338750 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ewr |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 338750 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Location: northeast of ewr just after takeoff. We received the following departure clearance from ewr via ACARS: ewr 5 SID expect at 2.3 DME turn right heading 220 degrees. Expect requested altitude 10 mins after takeoff. Departure frequency 119.2. The departure runway was 4L. We had landed on runway 4R about an hour earlier. During all the time we were there the runway was runway 4L/right. Ewr 5 departure runway 4L says 'climb on a 60 degree heading.' upon crossing D4 iewr/ieza ILS turn left to a 290 degree heading, maintain 2500 ft, etc. My ACARS clearance clearly stated to turn right at 2.3 DME which I briefed to first officer and which I flew the aircraft after takeoff. Upon turning right the departure controller became clearly concerned asking if we were indeed in a right turn and stating if so then immediately level off and turn right to a heading of 270 degrees. The controller informed us that we were conflicting with the arrival corridor into lga. We received no TCASII alerts. I urgently recommend that procedures be put in place which will not allow such clrncs to be issued in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PDC CONFUSION. RPTR CAPT ASSERTS THAT THE PDC SPECIFICALLY INSTRUCTED TO TURN AT 2 PT 3 DME TO HDG 220 DEGS. DEP CTLR INTERVENED IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE OF TFC CONFLICT.
Narrative: LOCATION: NE OF EWR JUST AFTER TKOF. WE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING DEP CLRNC FROM EWR VIA ACARS: EWR 5 SID EXPECT AT 2.3 DME TURN R HDG 220 DEGS. EXPECT REQUESTED ALT 10 MINS AFTER TKOF. DEP FREQ 119.2. THE DEP RWY WAS 4L. WE HAD LANDED ON RWY 4R ABOUT AN HR EARLIER. DURING ALL THE TIME WE WERE THERE THE RWY WAS RWY 4L/R. EWR 5 DEP RWY 4L SAYS 'CLB ON A 60 DEG HDG.' UPON XING D4 IEWR/IEZA ILS TURN L TO A 290 DEG HDG, MAINTAIN 2500 FT, ETC. MY ACARS CLRNC CLRLY STATED TO TURN R AT 2.3 DME WHICH I BRIEFED TO FO AND WHICH I FLEW THE ACFT AFTER TKOF. UPON TURNING R THE DEP CTLR BECAME CLRLY CONCERNED ASKING IF WE WERE INDEED IN A R TURN AND STATING IF SO THEN IMMEDIATELY LEVEL OFF AND TURN R TO A HDG OF 270 DEGS. THE CTLR INFORMED US THAT WE WERE CONFLICTING WITH THE ARR CORRIDOR INTO LGA. WE RECEIVED NO TCASII ALERTS. I URGENTLY RECOMMEND THAT PROCS BE PUT IN PLACE WHICH WILL NOT ALLOW SUCH CLRNCS TO BE ISSUED IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.