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Flight crew of an medium large transport failed to first contact ramp control prior to taxi out to start of taxiway due to misunderstanding that the ramp had no ramp control. After further review of airport information they realized that it did have.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 338200 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 12000 |
| ASRS Report | 338200 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We powered out of gate X ramp X on flight X. Our manual indicated ramp X was uncontrolled. We began our taxi to spot X and called ground control who asked us to call ramp control. Upon talking to ramp control we were told ramp X is controled. After looking at the airport NOTAMS one more time, I found the NOTAM about ramp X being controled. I did not see the NOTAM the first time I looked at the airport NOTAMS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG FAILED TO FIRST CONTACT RAMP CTL PRIOR TO TAXI OUT TO START OF TXWY DUE TO MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THE RAMP HAD NO RAMP CTL. AFTER FURTHER REVIEW OF ARPT INFO THEY REALIZED THAT IT DID HAVE.
Narrative: WE POWERED OUT OF GATE X RAMP X ON FLT X. OUR MANUAL INDICATED RAMP X WAS UNCTLED. WE BEGAN OUR TAXI TO SPOT X AND CALLED GND CTL WHO ASKED US TO CALL RAMP CTL. UPON TALKING TO RAMP CTL WE WERE TOLD RAMP X IS CTLED. AFTER LOOKING AT THE ARPT NOTAMS ONE MORE TIME, I FOUND THE NOTAM ABOUT RAMP X BEING CTLED. I DID NOT SEE THE NOTAM THE FIRST TIME I LOOKED AT THE ARPT NOTAMS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.