<< >> NASA ASRS Report 337250, May 1996

A passenger had to take over the controls of a cherokee 6 when the engine stopped short of an airport.

Attributes
ACN	337250
Time
Date	199605
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : con
State Reference	NH
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise other landing other other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot observation : observer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 16750 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	337250
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot other personnel other
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : declared emergency none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Aircraft

Narrative:

Cherokee 6, out of annual several yrs, $1600 spent by mechanic to get aircraft ready for ferry flight to long island, ny. Pilot/owner had previous experience in aircraft, but wanted pilot to go along to make sure plane ok. I went along as an observer, not a CFI, and did not intend to make a logbook endorsement. I suggested pilot fly north 15 mi to con and make 1 landing and drop me off at mht and continue on to long island. Engine started running rough 8 M south of con. Very rough at 5 mi and PIC was not able to hold altitude. Headed right for runway. Engine quit 2 1/2 mi from threshold at 700 ft AGL. Very strong headwind. Coming down quick. The PIC said take over. I saw we would not even make the overrun and with only trees short of field. I saw route 3 (2-LANE) just to left and saw the traffic was not too heavy for a landing. Touched down hard on hill on passing lane and there was no injury or damage sustained. Probable problem is fuel injection. Might be considered possible problem with FAA, making a test hop on a ferry permit.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A PAX HAD TO TAKE OVER THE CTLS OF A CHEROKEE 6 WHEN THE ENG STOPPED SHORT OF AN ARPT.

Narrative: CHEROKEE 6, OUT OF ANNUAL SEVERAL YRS, $1600 SPENT BY MECH TO GET ACFT READY FOR FERRY FLT TO LONG ISLAND, NY. PLT/OWNER HAD PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE IN ACFT, BUT WANTED PLT TO GO ALONG TO MAKE SURE PLANE OK. I WENT ALONG AS AN OBSERVER, NOT A CFI, AND DID NOT INTEND TO MAKE A LOGBOOK ENDORSEMENT. I SUGGESTED PLT FLY N 15 MI TO CON AND MAKE 1 LNDG AND DROP ME OFF AT MHT AND CONTINUE ON TO LONG ISLAND. ENG STARTED RUNNING ROUGH 8 M S OF CON. VERY ROUGH AT 5 MI AND PIC WAS NOT ABLE TO HOLD ALT. HEADED R FOR RWY. ENG QUIT 2 1/2 MI FROM THRESHOLD AT 700 FT AGL. VERY STRONG HEADWIND. COMING DOWN QUICK. THE PIC SAID TAKE OVER. I SAW WE WOULD NOT EVEN MAKE THE OVERRUN AND WITH ONLY TREES SHORT OF FIELD. I SAW RTE 3 (2-LANE) JUST TO L AND SAW THE TFC WAS NOT TOO HVY FOR A LNDG. TOUCHED DOWN HARD ON HILL ON PASSING LANE AND THERE WAS NO INJURY OR DAMAGE SUSTAINED. PROBABLE PROB IS FUEL INJECTION. MIGHT BE CONSIDERED POSSIBLE PROB WITH FAA, MAKING A TEST HOP ON A FERRY PERMIT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.