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An air carrier B737 reports an near midair collision with an air carrier B727. Under positive control of abq TRACON.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 337208 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : abq |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : abq |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 337208 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were at 8000 ft assigned. B727 (air carrier Y) was at 9000 ft. We were asked if we could see him and we said yes. Controller told us to climb and maintain visual separation. Also told air carrier Y to descend. We were pointed at each other. A very few seconds later, I was getting an RA (so was he) and banked so as to pass behind him. I was surprised at how little time I had to react. Air carrier Y was pissed. I'm not sure if anything could/should have been done differently. It would be nice if TCASII gave lateral guidance also. That is how we escaped.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B737 RPTS AN NMAC WITH AN ACR B727. UNDER POSITIVE CTL OF ABQ TRACON.
Narrative: WE WERE AT 8000 FT ASSIGNED. B727 (ACR Y) WAS AT 9000 FT. WE WERE ASKED IF WE COULD SEE HIM AND WE SAID YES. CTLR TOLD US TO CLB AND MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. ALSO TOLD ACR Y TO DSND. WE WERE POINTED AT EACH OTHER. A VERY FEW SECONDS LATER, I WAS GETTING AN RA (SO WAS HE) AND BANKED SO AS TO PASS BEHIND HIM. I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW LITTLE TIME I HAD TO REACT. ACR Y WAS PISSED. I'M NOT SURE IF ANYTHING COULD/SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY. IT WOULD BE NICE IF TCASII GAVE LATERAL GUIDANCE ALSO. THAT IS HOW WE ESCAPED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.