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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 335956 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mmu |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 335956 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying in new york B airspace on a clearance at 4500 ft. I saw a DC9 type aircraft to the south of me which did not present a collision risk. It was very turbulent and my cherokee climbed 200 ft from my assigned altitude. I was called by the controller and told the airline had received an RA and was climbing. I think following TCASII RA's in cavu with no collision threat is ill advised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A PIPER CHEROKEE CAUSED A TCASII RA BY ANOTHER ACFT WHEN IT BOUNCED UP OFF ALT 200 FT DUE TO TURB.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING IN NEW YORK B AIRSPACE ON A CLRNC AT 4500 FT. I SAW A DC9 TYPE ACFT TO THE S OF ME WHICH DID NOT PRESENT A COLLISION RISK. IT WAS VERY TURBULENT AND MY CHEROKEE CLBED 200 FT FROM MY ASSIGNED ALT. I WAS CALLED BY THE CTLR AND TOLD THE AIRLINE HAD RECEIVED AN RA AND WAS CLBING. I THINK FOLLOWING TCASII RA'S IN CAVU WITH NO COLLISION THREAT IS ILL ADVISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.