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|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||airport : msp|
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : msp|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Commercial Fixed Wing|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 121|
|Flight Phase||descent other|
|Route In Use||arrival other|
arrival star : star
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 120|
flight time total : 22700
flight time type : 2800
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : commercial
|Anomaly||inflight encounter : weather|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
Flight from san-msp, no significant WX indicated on forecast. Routine flight until approaching msp. Several aircraft including us were put into holding pattern at rwf for a short delay for thunderstorm and rain moving through msp airport area. Departed holding inbound msp on slightly extended route to remain clear of small line of thunderstorm cells, then given additional delay vector for departing traffic. Fuel getting close to minimum required for inbound, alternate and reserve. Contacted company dispatch for assistance and updated on ground situation. Dispatch changed our alternate to a more distant alternate due to WX moving toward original field alternate. This put us below fuel requirements, however, our destination airport was now in sight for a visual approach. To avoid getting deeper into a low fuel numbers game we declared 'minimum fuel.' approach control soon cleared us for a visual approach. We landed with no further delays or problems. We never truly were in a 'minimum fuel' dangerous fuel state but rather were into the area of not meeting the approach-go around-go to alternate and reserve fuel on board requirements due to the new alternate. I may have used the 'minimum fuel' call when not really necessary or appropriate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LGT DECLARED A MINIMUM FUEL STATUS DURING HOLDS AND DELAYS DURING A STAR APCH RESULTING IN SUCCESSFULLY LNDG WITH NO FUEL PROB.
Narrative: FLT FROM SAN-MSP, NO SIGNIFICANT WX INDICATED ON FORECAST. ROUTINE FLT UNTIL APCHING MSP. SEVERAL ACFT INCLUDING US WERE PUT INTO HOLDING PATTERN AT RWF FOR A SHORT DELAY FOR TSTM AND RAIN MOVING THROUGH MSP ARPT AREA. DEPARTED HOLDING INBOUND MSP ON SLIGHTLY EXTENDED RTE TO REMAIN CLR OF SMALL LINE OF TSTM CELLS, THEN GIVEN ADDITIONAL DELAY VECTOR FOR DEPARTING TFC. FUEL GETTING CLOSE TO MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR INBOUND, ALTERNATE AND RESERVE. CONTACTED COMPANY DISPATCH FOR ASSISTANCE AND UPDATED ON GND SIT. DISPATCH CHANGED OUR ALTERNATE TO A MORE DISTANT ALTERNATE DUE TO WX MOVING TOWARD ORIGINAL FIELD ALTERNATE. THIS PUT US BELOW FUEL REQUIREMENTS, HOWEVER, OUR DEST ARPT WAS NOW IN SIGHT FOR A VISUAL APCH. TO AVOID GETTING DEEPER INTO A LOW FUEL NUMBERS GAME WE DECLARED 'MINIMUM FUEL.' APCH CTL SOON CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH. WE LANDED WITH NO FURTHER DELAYS OR PROBS. WE NEVER TRULY WERE IN A 'MINIMUM FUEL' DANGEROUS FUEL STATE BUT RATHER WERE INTO THE AREA OF NOT MEETING THE APCH-GAR-GO TO ALTERNATE AND RESERVE FUEL ON BOARD REQUIREMENTS DUE TO THE NEW ALTERNATE. I MAY HAVE USED THE 'MINIMUM FUEL' CALL WHEN NOT REALLY NECESSARY OR APPROPRIATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.