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|Local Time Of Day||0001 To 0600|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : txk|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 17000|
msl bound upper : 17000
|Controlling Facilities||artcc : zfw|
|Operator||general aviation : corporate|
|Make Model Name||Chancellor 414A & C414|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 91|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : commercial
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 32|
flight time total : 504
flight time type : 149
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : radar|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
While flying IFR to tupelo, we filed a route via shreveport, la, to circumnav a line of severe thunderstorms. We were a few mi from texarkana when we spotted a break in the WX. These storms were in a line from southwest texas all the way north to iowa. We called center and requested a clearance to 'maneuver in this area and contact flight watch.' we wanted to use our radar to look at this gap in the WX and confirm our readout with the flight watch. The controller responded 'cleared as requested, report back in less than 10 mins.' we then began to circle the aircraft and changed frequency. After talking with flight watch (while circling to remain in the same general area) we returned to the center frequency. We promptly received a tongue lashing. We were asked what heading we were on, where we were going, and told we needed a clearance for that. After the tongue lashing we told the controller he said 'cleared as requested.' that was what we requested. Apparently, he misunderstood our request and thought we only wanted to change frequencys. He did not read back our clearance. He only said 'cleared as requested.' the channel was not busy at all.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WITH A LINE OF TSTMS AHEAD THE RPTR REQUESTED A CLRNC TO 'MANEUVER IN THIS AREA AND CONTACT FLT WATCH.' THE CTR CTLR RESPONDED 'CLRED AS REQUESTED, RPT BACK IN LESS THAN 10 MINS.' WHEN THE RPTR CAME BACK ON CTR FREQ THE CTLR WAS UPSET WITH THE MANEUVERING THE RPTR DID IN THE AREA.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING IFR TO TUPELO, WE FILED A RTE VIA SHREVEPORT, LA, TO CIRCUMNAV A LINE OF SEVERE TSTMS. WE WERE A FEW MI FROM TEXARKANA WHEN WE SPOTTED A BREAK IN THE WX. THESE STORMS WERE IN A LINE FROM SW TEXAS ALL THE WAY N TO IOWA. WE CALLED CTR AND REQUESTED A CLRNC TO 'MANEUVER IN THIS AREA AND CONTACT FLT WATCH.' WE WANTED TO USE OUR RADAR TO LOOK AT THIS GAP IN THE WX AND CONFIRM OUR READOUT WITH THE FLT WATCH. THE CTLR RESPONDED 'CLRED AS REQUESTED, RPT BACK IN LESS THAN 10 MINS.' WE THEN BEGAN TO CIRCLE THE ACFT AND CHANGED FREQ. AFTER TALKING WITH FLT WATCH (WHILE CIRCLING TO REMAIN IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA) WE RETURNED TO THE CTR FREQ. WE PROMPTLY RECEIVED A TONGUE LASHING. WE WERE ASKED WHAT HDG WE WERE ON, WHERE WE WERE GOING, AND TOLD WE NEEDED A CLRNC FOR THAT. AFTER THE TONGUE LASHING WE TOLD THE CTLR HE SAID 'CLRED AS REQUESTED.' THAT WAS WHAT WE REQUESTED. APPARENTLY, HE MISUNDERSTOOD OUR REQUEST AND THOUGHT WE ONLY WANTED TO CHANGE FREQS. HE DID NOT READ BACK OUR CLRNC. HE ONLY SAID 'CLRED AS REQUESTED.' THE CHANNEL WAS NOT BUSY AT ALL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.