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While climbing out of drake field IFR on the razor back departure the departure controller called traffic at 5300 ft 10-11 O'clock, 3 mi. The reporter broke out of the IMC at 5000 ft and saw a varieze emerge from a cumulus cloud less than one half mi a couple hundred ft above him. The varieze was not IFR.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 332957 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rzc airport : fyv |
| State Reference | AR |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5300 msl bound upper : 5300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : fyv |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Sail Plane |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 75 |
| ASRS Report | 332957 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac inflight encounter : vfr in imc non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1600 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While climbing out of drake field I was on an IFR clearance. Departure control gave me a traffic report, traffic 10-11 O'clock, 3 mi eastbound at 5300 ft. I was nwbound at 4500 ft climbing to 8000 ft. I slowed my climb rate but I was IMC at the time. I broke out at 5000 ft then was in and out of broken cumulus clouds. The controller gave me a couple more reports. When he reported 1 mi away, an airplane popped out of a cloud a couple hundred ft above me less than 1/2 mi away closer to 1000 ft. It was a very ez or long ez. I'm not sure which kind, but he was close enough to see the pilot's face. I asked the controller if he was IFR and he said he wasn't. I was lucky I wasn't in a cloud at that second since I was in the clouds more than I wasn't. I don't think I could have done much different except level off lower. I couldn't believe someone would fly in that kind of WX VFR. I thought maybe the guy's mode C was way off when the controller said he was at 5300 ft MSL. I will now expect the unexpected.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE CLBING OUT OF DRAKE FIELD IFR ON THE RAZOR BACK DEP THE DEP CTLR CALLED TFC AT 5300 FT 10-11 O'CLOCK, 3 MI. THE RPTR BROKE OUT OF THE IMC AT 5000 FT AND SAW A VARIEZE EMERGE FROM A CUMULUS CLOUD LESS THAN ONE HALF MI A COUPLE HUNDRED FT ABOVE HIM. THE VARIEZE WAS NOT IFR.
Narrative: WHILE CLBING OUT OF DRAKE FIELD I WAS ON AN IFR CLRNC. DEP CTL GAVE ME A TFC RPT, TFC 10-11 O'CLOCK, 3 MI EBOUND AT 5300 FT. I WAS NWBOUND AT 4500 FT CLBING TO 8000 FT. I SLOWED MY CLB RATE BUT I WAS IMC AT THE TIME. I BROKE OUT AT 5000 FT THEN WAS IN AND OUT OF BROKEN CUMULUS CLOUDS. THE CTLR GAVE ME A COUPLE MORE RPTS. WHEN HE RPTED 1 MI AWAY, AN AIRPLANE POPPED OUT OF A CLOUD A COUPLE HUNDRED FT ABOVE ME LESS THAN 1/2 MI AWAY CLOSER TO 1000 FT. IT WAS A VERY EZ OR LONG EZ. I'M NOT SURE WHICH KIND, BUT HE WAS CLOSE ENOUGH TO SEE THE PLT'S FACE. I ASKED THE CTLR IF HE WAS IFR AND HE SAID HE WASN'T. I WAS LUCKY I WASN'T IN A CLOUD AT THAT SECOND SINCE I WAS IN THE CLOUDS MORE THAN I WASN'T. I DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE DONE MUCH DIFFERENT EXCEPT LEVEL OFF LOWER. I COULDN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE WOULD FLY IN THAT KIND OF WX VFR. I THOUGHT MAYBE THE GUY'S MODE C WAS WAY OFF WHEN THE CTLR SAID HE WAS AT 5300 FT MSL. I WILL NOW EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.