<< >> NASA ASRS Report 330446, March 1996

Aircraft on final approach had to go around because of formation military aircraft takeoff. Inadequate ATC coordination.

Attributes
ACN	330446
Time
Date	199603
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : clt
State Reference	NC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 300 agl bound upper : 300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : clt
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B767-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Hercules (C-130)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 1800
ASRS Report	330446
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 500
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

We were cleared for visual approach and cleared to land on runway 23 5 mi on final. About 2 mi on final we were informed that an L382 military aircraft was taking off on runway 18L which intersected runway 23. We then realized that this was a formation takeoff and a second aircraft was cleared for takeoff. The tower asked the L382's if there was going to be any delay on the runway and they said no. We continued the approach and the first L382 cleared the intersection of runway 23 and runway 18L. While we were 1 plus mi on final as we continued inbound the tower queried the second L382 and he indicated no delay. About 15 seconds after the first aircraft rolled, the second aircraft rolled. It appeared we would join forces at the intersect and I ordered a go around. We passed about 500 ft directly over the L382. If there is a built-in delay on formation takeoffs then ATC should be advised. We should have been advised.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACFT ON FINAL APCH HAD TO GAR BECAUSE OF FORMATION MIL ACFT TKOF. INADEQUATE ATC COORD.

Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH AND CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 23 5 MI ON FINAL. ABOUT 2 MI ON FINAL WE WERE INFORMED THAT AN L382 MIL ACFT WAS TAKING OFF ON RWY 18L WHICH INTERSECTED RWY 23. WE THEN REALIZED THAT THIS WAS A FORMATION TKOF AND A SECOND ACFT WAS CLRED FOR TKOF. THE TWR ASKED THE L382'S IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY DELAY ON THE RWY AND THEY SAID NO. WE CONTINUED THE APCH AND THE FIRST L382 CLRED THE INTXN OF RWY 23 AND RWY 18L. WHILE WE WERE 1 PLUS MI ON FINAL AS WE CONTINUED INBOUND THE TWR QUERIED THE SECOND L382 AND HE INDICATED NO DELAY. ABOUT 15 SECONDS AFTER THE FIRST ACFT ROLLED, THE SECOND ACFT ROLLED. IT APPEARED WE WOULD JOIN FORCES AT THE INTERSECT AND I ORDERED A GAR. WE PASSED ABOUT 500 FT DIRECTLY OVER THE L382. IF THERE IS A BUILT-IN DELAY ON FORMATION TKOFS THEN ATC SHOULD BE ADVISED. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADVISED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.