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Air carrier overshot final during a visual approach, and received a TCASII RA for traffic on a parallel final approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 326539 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199601 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 326539 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 326191 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Making a visual to runway 24R, the sun blocked the runway from sight. We went to the localizer to turn to final (from base) and overshot runway 24R. 'Other' aircraft was in sight at all times. TCASII and RA went off as we were turning on localizer, (other) aircraft was for runway 25L (we believe). Nothing was said. Supplemental information from acn 326191: while downwind, turning base the sun was so bright you could not see the runway any longer. Going back to instruments waiting for the localizer to move we overshot runway 24R, TCASII RA went off, captain had aircraft in sight the whole time, we corrected back. Nothing was said, (other) aircraft was for runway 25L at no time was the other aircraft out of our sight. Supplemental information from acn 326294: the sun blocked our view of runway 24R, and the localizer captured at an angle that we overshot runway 24R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR OVERSHOT FINAL DURING A VISUAL APCH, AND RECEIVED A TCASII RA FOR TFC ON A PARALLEL FINAL APCH.
Narrative: MAKING A VISUAL TO RWY 24R, THE SUN BLOCKED THE RWY FROM SIGHT. WE WENT TO THE LOC TO TURN TO FINAL (FROM BASE) AND OVERSHOT RWY 24R. 'OTHER' ACFT WAS IN SIGHT AT ALL TIMES. TCASII AND RA WENT OFF AS WE WERE TURNING ON LOC, (OTHER) ACFT WAS FOR RWY 25L (WE BELIEVE). NOTHING WAS SAID. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 326191: WHILE DOWNWIND, TURNING BASE THE SUN WAS SO BRIGHT YOU COULD NOT SEE THE RWY ANY LONGER. GOING BACK TO INSTS WAITING FOR THE LOC TO MOVE WE OVERSHOT RWY 24R, TCASII RA WENT OFF, CAPT HAD ACFT IN SIGHT THE WHOLE TIME, WE CORRECTED BACK. NOTHING WAS SAID, (OTHER) ACFT WAS FOR RWY 25L AT NO TIME WAS THE OTHER ACFT OUT OF OUR SIGHT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 326294: THE SUN BLOCKED OUR VIEW OF RWY 24R, AND THE LOC CAPTURED AT AN ANGLE THAT WE OVERSHOT RWY 24R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.