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An atx pilot reports that an air carrier flight crew complained that he departed an uncontrolled airport when the air carrier was too close on final approach. The reporter said that the approaching air carrier was about 3 miles out when he took the runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 321640 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199511 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : crq |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lgb |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 8300 flight time type : 80 |
| ASRS Report | 321640 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I had made a transmission on CTAF that I was taxiing for departure on runway 24. Another aircraft, a commuter, immediately reported on CTAF 'approaching OM.' I saw his lights in the distance. About 45 seconds later, I transmitted on CTAF 'departing runway 24, straight-out' as I was about to move onto the runway. The inbound aircraft appeared about 3 mi away. Safely airborne, I transmitted 'clear of the runway.' the inbound aircraft responded on frequency with 'next time leave a little more room.' his transmission makes me think he felt there was not enough clearance between my aircraft and his aircraft on this departure-arrival situation, though I judged ample separation. The commuter landed without incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATX PLT RPTS THAT AN ACR FLC COMPLAINED THAT HE DEPARTED AN UNCTLED ARPT WHEN THE ACR WAS TOO CLOSE ON FINAL APCH. THE RPTR SAID THAT THE APCHING ACR WAS ABOUT 3 MILES OUT WHEN HE TOOK THE RWY.
Narrative: I HAD MADE A XMISSION ON CTAF THAT I WAS TAXIING FOR DEP ON RWY 24. ANOTHER ACFT, A COMMUTER, IMMEDIATELY RPTED ON CTAF 'APCHING OM.' I SAW HIS LIGHTS IN THE DISTANCE. ABOUT 45 SECONDS LATER, I XMITTED ON CTAF 'DEPARTING RWY 24, STRAIGHT-OUT' AS I WAS ABOUT TO MOVE ONTO THE RWY. THE INBOUND ACFT APPEARED ABOUT 3 MI AWAY. SAFELY AIRBORNE, I XMITTED 'CLR OF THE RWY.' THE INBOUND ACFT RESPONDED ON FREQ WITH 'NEXT TIME LEAVE A LITTLE MORE ROOM.' HIS XMISSION MAKES ME THINK HE FELT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH CLRNC BTWN MY ACFT AND HIS ACFT ON THIS DEP-ARR SIT, THOUGH I JUDGED AMPLE SEPARATION. THE COMMUTER LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.