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Aircraft equipment problem. Loss of system 'a' fluid. Flight crew late in advising ATC of emergency declared.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 317952 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199510 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : lga |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 317952 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On milton 8 STAR to lga, had complete loss of a hydraulic system fluid, a system inoperative. Captain flying. We did abnormal checklist and advised ZNY of our problem. Did not declare emergency. We contacted operations at lga and told them of problem, they wanted us to call company dispatch on commercial radio. We did but at this point we were on a STAR and the company call took copilot out of loop (captain flying and working ATC). Captain then talked on commercial radio and turned aircraft over to me. I was now 'single-pilot' and when turned over to tower by approach control told them to have emergency vehicles ready (landing runway 4 at lga). Approach control called us on ground and correctly complained that we did not tell them of need for emergency vehicles. I felt that our handling of the abnormal was excellent except we did not inform approach control of need for emergency vehicles. This caused problems in response time for those vehicles and to separate aircraft behind us for that runway 4 in use. We had too much going on with flying STAR and ATC, radio calls with ATC, running long checklist, coordination with the flight attendants and operations at lga to spend 10 mins taking one pilot out of loop to call company on commercial radio. This broke down communication with each other and with ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT EQUIP PROB. LOSS OF SYS 'A' FLUID. FLC LATE IN ADVISING ATC OF EMER DECLARED.
Narrative: ON MILTON 8 STAR TO LGA, HAD COMPLETE LOSS OF A HYD SYS FLUID, A SYS INOP. CAPT FLYING. WE DID ABNORMAL CHKLIST AND ADVISED ZNY OF OUR PROB. DID NOT DECLARE EMER. WE CONTACTED OPS AT LGA AND TOLD THEM OF PROB, THEY WANTED US TO CALL COMPANY DISPATCH ON COMMERCIAL RADIO. WE DID BUT AT THIS POINT WE WERE ON A STAR AND THE COMPANY CALL TOOK COPLT OUT OF LOOP (CAPT FLYING AND WORKING ATC). CAPT THEN TALKED ON COMMERCIAL RADIO AND TURNED ACFT OVER TO ME. I WAS NOW 'SINGLE-PLT' AND WHEN TURNED OVER TO TWR BY APCH CTL TOLD THEM TO HAVE EMER VEHICLES READY (LNDG RWY 4 AT LGA). APCH CTL CALLED US ON GND AND CORRECTLY COMPLAINED THAT WE DID NOT TELL THEM OF NEED FOR EMER VEHICLES. I FELT THAT OUR HANDLING OF THE ABNORMAL WAS EXCELLENT EXCEPT WE DID NOT INFORM APCH CTL OF NEED FOR EMER VEHICLES. THIS CAUSED PROBS IN RESPONSE TIME FOR THOSE VEHICLES AND TO SEPARATE ACFT BEHIND US FOR THAT RWY 4 IN USE. WE HAD TOO MUCH GOING ON WITH FLYING STAR AND ATC, RADIO CALLS WITH ATC, RUNNING LONG CHKLIST, COORD WITH THE FLT ATTENDANTS AND OPS AT LGA TO SPEND 10 MINS TAKING ONE PLT OUT OF LOOP TO CALL COMPANY ON COMMERCIAL RADIO. THIS BROKE DOWN COM WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.