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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 317645 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199510 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fll |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 317645 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
At departure time, #1 flight attendant notified we had supplemental oxygen on board aircraft. I told her I was not aware of it. We called the agent back to verify the required paperwork was on board since we didn't have any form X. After a quick departure and his return, he assured us we had all the paperwork which was required which amounted only to the #1 flight attendant's paperwork. After reviewing part 1 and the operations manual, we were still not sure that the form X was required, but it stated that cargo and passenger service was responsible, so we took it at that. When landing at dfw, I called cargo and they didn't know the answer, but called and left a message at the hotel to inform me that a form X was required. I feel flight manual part 1 does not clearly address the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PREFLT PAPERWORK NOT COMPLETE.
Narrative: AT DEP TIME, #1 FLT ATTENDANT NOTIFIED WE HAD SUPPLEMENTAL OXYGEN ON BOARD ACFT. I TOLD HER I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT. WE CALLED THE AGENT BACK TO VERIFY THE REQUIRED PAPERWORK WAS ON BOARD SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FORM X. AFTER A QUICK DEP AND HIS RETURN, HE ASSURED US WE HAD ALL THE PAPERWORK WHICH WAS REQUIRED WHICH AMOUNTED ONLY TO THE #1 FLT ATTENDANT'S PAPERWORK. AFTER REVIEWING PART 1 AND THE OPS MANUAL, WE WERE STILL NOT SURE THAT THE FORM X WAS REQUIRED, BUT IT STATED THAT CARGO AND PAX SVC WAS RESPONSIBLE, SO WE TOOK IT AT THAT. WHEN LNDG AT DFW, I CALLED CARGO AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT CALLED AND LEFT A MESSAGE AT THE HOTEL TO INFORM ME THAT A FORM X WAS REQUIRED. I FEEL FLT MANUAL PART 1 DOES NOT CLRLY ADDRESS THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.