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A flight of F-16's cleared to climb via 'visual separation' caused air carrier's TA RA. No time for air carrier flight crew to react.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 306073 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199505 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sie |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zdc |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighting Falcon F16 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 306073 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 800 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight of 4 F-16's (nj air national guard) cleared to climb visually, climbed through our altitude. F-16's had been cruising at 9000 ft and we had been cleared to cross vcn at 9000 ft. Lack of judgement on the part of the F-16 crew. I believe they just intended to impress us, however they alarmed a few of our passenger.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FLT OF F-16'S CLRED TO CLB VIA 'VISUAL SEPARATION' CAUSED ACR'S TA RA. NO TIME FOR ACR FLC TO REACT.
Narrative: FLT OF 4 F-16'S (NJ AIR NATIONAL GUARD) CLRED TO CLB VISUALLY, CLBED THROUGH OUR ALT. F-16'S HAD BEEN CRUISING AT 9000 FT AND WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO CROSS VCN AT 9000 FT. LACK OF JUDGEMENT ON THE PART OF THE F-16 CREW. I BELIEVE THEY JUST INTENDED TO IMPRESS US, HOWEVER THEY ALARMED A FEW OF OUR PAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.