Stabilized approach concept ignored by PIC on air carrier large transport.

Attributes
ACN	304981
Time
Date	199505
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : las
State Reference	NV
Altitude	agl bound lower : 300 agl bound upper : 500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : las
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other descent : approach descent other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4410
ASRS Report	304981
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted other
Consequence	other Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 2500 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

For some reason -- we're not sure why -- when we were turned over to the tower at las we were somewhat high (not unreasonably, just a little higher than normal), the PF was slow to configure flaps and gear. At the OM I suggested obtaining a left 360 degree turn to lose altitude. The PF wanted an s-turn (2500 ft AGL). Inside the marker it was obvious to me a landing was not probable given the airspeed required to get down (now 1500 ft AGL). PF started another s-turn and requested a 360 degree turn from the tower. At that time the tower issued an immediate right turn to avoid an inbound flight of 2 (piston and propellers). TCASII began to issue RA's but we turned soon enough to avoid traffic. At this point I suggested a go around. We were 1000 ft AGL, 90 degrees to the runway, fast, and 1 mi out. I said 'don't descend, we're not stabilized enough to land out of this.' PF pushed over 35 degrees of bank, joined runway final and at 300 ft AGL, rolled out and landed. (At 500 ft AGL I asked for another go around.) touched down reference plus 20 KTS. Maximum effort and lots of braking. I should have taken the airplane from him. The current guidelines for a stabilized approach were broached. The PF was on a quest to land this airplane, however, we scared 184 plus people for no good reason. Company flight safety has been notified.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: STABILIZED APCH CONCEPT IGNORED BY PIC ON ACR LGT.

Narrative: FOR SOME REASON -- WE'RE NOT SURE WHY -- WHEN WE WERE TURNED OVER TO THE TWR AT LAS WE WERE SOMEWHAT HIGH (NOT UNREASONABLY, JUST A LITTLE HIGHER THAN NORMAL), THE PF WAS SLOW TO CONFIGURE FLAPS AND GEAR. AT THE OM I SUGGESTED OBTAINING A L 360 DEG TURN TO LOSE ALT. THE PF WANTED AN S-TURN (2500 FT AGL). INSIDE THE MARKER IT WAS OBVIOUS TO ME A LNDG WAS NOT PROBABLE GIVEN THE AIRSPD REQUIRED TO GET DOWN (NOW 1500 FT AGL). PF STARTED ANOTHER S-TURN AND REQUESTED A 360 DEG TURN FROM THE TWR. AT THAT TIME THE TWR ISSUED AN IMMEDIATE R TURN TO AVOID AN INBOUND FLT OF 2 (PISTON AND PROPS). TCASII BEGAN TO ISSUE RA'S BUT WE TURNED SOON ENOUGH TO AVOID TFC. AT THIS POINT I SUGGESTED A GAR. WE WERE 1000 FT AGL, 90 DEGS TO THE RWY, FAST, AND 1 MI OUT. I SAID 'DON'T DSND, WE'RE NOT STABILIZED ENOUGH TO LAND OUT OF THIS.' PF PUSHED OVER 35 DEGS OF BANK, JOINED RWY FINAL AND AT 300 FT AGL, ROLLED OUT AND LANDED. (AT 500 FT AGL I ASKED FOR ANOTHER GAR.) TOUCHED DOWN REF PLUS 20 KTS. MAX EFFORT AND LOTS OF BRAKING. I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE AIRPLANE FROM HIM. THE CURRENT GUIDELINES FOR A STABILIZED APCH WERE BROACHED. THE PF WAS ON A QUEST TO LAND THIS AIRPLANE, HOWEVER, WE SCARED 184 PLUS PEOPLE FOR NO GOOD REASON. COMPANY FLT SAFETY HAS BEEN NOTIFIED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.