Approach procedure evaluation.

Attributes
ACN	304245
Time
Date	199505
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : sfo
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1600 msl bound upper : 7000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : oak
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing other
Route In Use	arrival other enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	304245
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Airport
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We were broken off the approach at 12.5 DME and turned to parallel our traffic. We were at 5000 ft and told to expedite our descent to 1600 ft to break out and look for traffic at 9 O'clock. We were high because we were kept high inside aadam 7000 ft. This approach started bad and got worse. The problem was that we were kept high inside aadam. When we asked for lower we were given 6000 ft and later 5000 ft but we were now inside nthan. I got the impression we did not have enough stagger and he could not clear us for the approach. Eventually he had us fly 280 degrees and descend rapidly to 1600 ft. We saw the traffic just outside the bridge at 2000 ft. We were significantly off the centerline (north) and were not lined up until inside coyote point. There was no real danger for a turbo propeller but the high rate of descent could have been a problem.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: APCH PROC EVALUATION.

Narrative: WE WERE BROKEN OFF THE APCH AT 12.5 DME AND TURNED TO PARALLEL OUR TFC. WE WERE AT 5000 FT AND TOLD TO EXPEDITE OUR DSCNT TO 1600 FT TO BREAK OUT AND LOOK FOR TFC AT 9 O'CLOCK. WE WERE HIGH BECAUSE WE WERE KEPT HIGH INSIDE AADAM 7000 FT. THIS APCH STARTED BAD AND GOT WORSE. THE PROB WAS THAT WE WERE KEPT HIGH INSIDE AADAM. WHEN WE ASKED FOR LOWER WE WERE GIVEN 6000 FT AND LATER 5000 FT BUT WE WERE NOW INSIDE NTHAN. I GOT THE IMPRESSION WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH STAGGER AND HE COULD NOT CLR US FOR THE APCH. EVENTUALLY HE HAD US FLY 280 DEGS AND DSND RAPIDLY TO 1600 FT. WE SAW THE TFC JUST OUTSIDE THE BRIDGE AT 2000 FT. WE WERE SIGNIFICANTLY OFF THE CTRLINE (N) AND WERE NOT LINED UP UNTIL INSIDE COYOTE POINT. THERE WAS NO REAL DANGER FOR A TURBO PROP BUT THE HIGH RATE OF DSCNT COULD HAVE BEEN A PROB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.