Aircraft on ATC vector, climbed per instructions and were close enough to another aircraft that it r...

Attributes
ACN	303340
Time
Date	199504
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : vhp
State Reference	IN
Altitude	msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 16000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zid
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other
Route In Use	enroute airway : zid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 15985 flight time type : 1600
ASRS Report	303340
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 4500 vertical : 1000
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We were on vector, west of our route, and assigned 14000 ft due to traffic at 16000 ft off our left side. Center pointed out the traffic, which we acknowledged, and then cleared us to climb to FL230 'reference the traffic' and to proceed direct to cvg. This necessitated a left climbing turn, which was initiated. We passed below and behind the known traffic. However he questioned center and indicated that his TCASII directed an abrupt move disrupting his passenger. From our perspective, no visual conflict occurred, however, the crew was quite upset. Perhaps visual climbs under IFR control need to be reviewed so as to preclude these types of happenings. I'm aware I could refuse to climb. But most of us are not so inclined. Maybe we need to be protected from ourselves!!

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACFT ON ATC VECTOR, CLBED PER INSTRUCTIONS AND WERE CLOSE ENOUGH TO ANOTHER ACFT THAT IT RECEIVED A TCASII RA.

Narrative: WE WERE ON VECTOR, W OF OUR RTE, AND ASSIGNED 14000 FT DUE TO TFC AT 16000 FT OFF OUR L SIDE. CTR POINTED OUT THE TFC, WHICH WE ACKNOWLEDGED, AND THEN CLRED US TO CLB TO FL230 'REFERENCE THE TFC' AND TO PROCEED DIRECT TO CVG. THIS NECESSITATED A L CLBING TURN, WHICH WAS INITIATED. WE PASSED BELOW AND BEHIND THE KNOWN TFC. HOWEVER HE QUESTIONED CTR AND INDICATED THAT HIS TCASII DIRECTED AN ABRUPT MOVE DISRUPTING HIS PAX. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, NO VISUAL CONFLICT OCCURRED, HOWEVER, THE CREW WAS QUITE UPSET. PERHAPS VISUAL CLBS UNDER IFR CTL NEED TO BE REVIEWED SO AS TO PRECLUDE THESE TYPES OF HAPPENINGS. I'M AWARE I COULD REFUSE TO CLB. BUT MOST OF US ARE NOT SO INCLINED. MAYBE WE NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM OURSELVES!!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Aircraft on ATC vector, climbed per instructions and were close enough to another aircraft that it received a TCASII RA.