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Air carrier PIC has aircraft suffering from an aircraft equipment problem and is talked into taking aircraft on flight by dispatcher and air carrier maintenance supervisor.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 303059 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199504 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 303059 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
2 vors installed, 1 may be inoperative if LF available en route and in terminal area. MEL doesn't give any credit for IRS navigation even though airplane is certified for ETOPS operations. So MEL doesn't make sense. I was talked into flight by dispatch and maintenance control, even though letter of law would have said no! By the time I reached destination, company had recognized error and planned maintenance ferry home. I was swayed by: 1) 8-10 of my respected peers had flown it without comment. 2) dispatcher and 2 maintenance control guys ganged up on me. 3) pressure (self induced) not to cancel in middle of night.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PIC HAS ACFT SUFFERING FROM AN ACFT EQUIP PROB AND IS TALKED INTO TAKING ACFT ON FLT BY DISPATCHER AND ACR MAINT SUPVR.
Narrative: 2 VORS INSTALLED, 1 MAY BE INOP IF LF AVAILABLE ENRTE AND IN TERMINAL AREA. MEL DOESN'T GIVE ANY CREDIT FOR IRS NAV EVEN THOUGH AIRPLANE IS CERTIFIED FOR ETOPS OPS. SO MEL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I WAS TALKED INTO FLT BY DISPATCH AND MAINT CTL, EVEN THOUGH LETTER OF LAW WOULD HAVE SAID NO! BY THE TIME I REACHED DEST, COMPANY HAD RECOGNIZED ERROR AND PLANNED MAINT FERRY HOME. I WAS SWAYED BY: 1) 8-10 OF MY RESPECTED PEERS HAD FLOWN IT WITHOUT COMMENT. 2) DISPATCHER AND 2 MAINT CTL GUYS GANGED UP ON ME. 3) PRESSURE (SELF INDUCED) NOT TO CANCEL IN MIDDLE OF NIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.