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An air carrier flight crew failed to initiate a descent for crossing restr compliance. Controller intervened.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 301721 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199504 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cap |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 214 flight time total : 8945 flight time type : 3665 |
| ASRS Report | 301721 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 301295 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The captain was flying during this leg of the rotation. ZID issued a restr to cross lewey intersection at FL290. The captain failed to initiate the descent in time to cross lewey at FL290. ZID queried us whether we would be able to meet the crossing restr. I said no, could we get a turn for the descent. ZID issued a new clearance to FL240 and told us to continue on our course. Shortly afterward, we were changed to another ZID frequency and the flight continued without incident. Supplemental information from acn 301295: distrs in the cockpit (conversation, flight attendant offering meals, etc) led us to forget, for a time, the crossing restr. Yet another reminder that flying the plane is the first and only job. Supplemental information from acn 301216: I was flying the aircraft and level at FL330. ZID called and gave us a clearance to cross lewey intersection (on the milan 2 arrival into cvg) at FL290. I was approximately 30 mi west of lewey intersection at that time and elected to delay my descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FAILED TO INITIATE A DSCNT FOR XING RESTR COMPLIANCE. CTLR INTERVENED.
Narrative: THE CAPT WAS FLYING DURING THIS LEG OF THE ROTATION. ZID ISSUED A RESTR TO CROSS LEWEY INTXN AT FL290. THE CAPT FAILED TO INITIATE THE DSCNT IN TIME TO CROSS LEWEY AT FL290. ZID QUERIED US WHETHER WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET THE XING RESTR. I SAID NO, COULD WE GET A TURN FOR THE DSCNT. ZID ISSUED A NEW CLRNC TO FL240 AND TOLD US TO CONTINUE ON OUR COURSE. SHORTLY AFTERWARD, WE WERE CHANGED TO ANOTHER ZID FREQ AND THE FLT CONTINUED WITHOUT INCIDENT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 301295: DISTRS IN THE COCKPIT (CONVERSATION, FLT ATTENDANT OFFERING MEALS, ETC) LED US TO FORGET, FOR A TIME, THE XING RESTR. YET ANOTHER REMINDER THAT FLYING THE PLANE IS THE FIRST AND ONLY JOB. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 301216: I WAS FLYING THE ACFT AND LEVEL AT FL330. ZID CALLED AND GAVE US A CLRNC TO CROSS LEWEY INTXN (ON THE MILAN 2 ARR INTO CVG) AT FL290. I WAS APPROX 30 MI W OF LEWEY INTXN AT THAT TIME AND ELECTED TO DELAY MY DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.