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Pilot feels too fatigued to fly an all night flight with a continuation of the flight in the following morning after a short stop over.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 297070 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199501 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : day |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 297070 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | oversight : supervisor |
| Qualification | other other : other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was notified at XA00 for a sign-in of XB40, sequence X. At sign-in, I was sure that I would not be alert for the second leg after 1 hour 15 mins situation in dfw. I called tracking at the time of sign-in and made them aware of it. The result of this decision was to have a permanent counseling record attached to my file. I have seen too many continue, only to miss radio calls - talk and not be alert enough to be safe. This is a safety issue and I don't want to wait until something happens to resolve it. If management of this airline feels that CR1S are the appropriate means of handling these problems, we really need to address the safety concern in more detail.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT FEELS TOO FATIGUED TO FLY AN ALL NIGHT FLT WITH A CONTINUATION OF THE FLT IN THE FOLLOWING MORNING AFTER A SHORT STOP OVER.
Narrative: I WAS NOTIFIED AT XA00 FOR A SIGN-IN OF XB40, SEQUENCE X. AT SIGN-IN, I WAS SURE THAT I WOULD NOT BE ALERT FOR THE SECOND LEG AFTER 1 HR 15 MINS SIT IN DFW. I CALLED TRACKING AT THE TIME OF SIGN-IN AND MADE THEM AWARE OF IT. THE RESULT OF THIS DECISION WAS TO HAVE A PERMANENT COUNSELING RECORD ATTACHED TO MY FILE. I HAVE SEEN TOO MANY CONTINUE, ONLY TO MISS RADIO CALLS - TALK AND NOT BE ALERT ENOUGH TO BE SAFE. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND I DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS TO RESOLVE IT. IF MGMNT OF THIS AIRLINE FEELS THAT CR1S ARE THE APPROPRIATE MEANS OF HANDLING THESE PROBS, WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY CONCERN IN MORE DETAIL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.