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During an instrument training flight, a student received a clearance from the tower, and later, conflicting instructions from the instructor. The student climbed and leveled 1100 ft higher than ATC assigned, per instructor's instructions.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 294753 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199501 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sna |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 19 flight time total : 482 flight time type : 271 |
| ASRS Report | 294753 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My instructor and I were practicing a missed ILS to sna. Apparently the tower controller cleared me to 2400 ft, although I did not write it down. I have manual landing gear and was having trouble getting it up (it's a johnson bar). My instructor then told me to climb to 3500 ft, which I did. The controller then asked me if I blew my altitude. I looked at my instructor and he nodded yes, so I responded affirmative. We had canceled our IFR flight plan before climbing to 3500 ft. I did what my instructor told me to, which in retrospect, I should not have done. Had I not had trouble with my landing gear, I would have written the altitude down.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING AN INST TRAINING FLT, A STUDENT RECEIVED A CLRNC FROM THE TWR, AND LATER, CONFLICTING INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE INSTRUCTOR. THE STUDENT CLBED AND LEVELED 1100 FT HIGHER THAN ATC ASSIGNED, PER INSTRUCTOR'S INSTRUCTIONS.
Narrative: MY INSTRUCTOR AND I WERE PRACTICING A MISSED ILS TO SNA. APPARENTLY THE TWR CTLR CLRED ME TO 2400 FT, ALTHOUGH I DID NOT WRITE IT DOWN. I HAVE MANUAL LNDG GEAR AND WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IT UP (IT'S A JOHNSON BAR). MY INSTRUCTOR THEN TOLD ME TO CLB TO 3500 FT, WHICH I DID. THE CTLR THEN ASKED ME IF I BLEW MY ALT. I LOOKED AT MY INSTRUCTOR AND HE NODDED YES, SO I RESPONDED AFFIRMATIVE. WE HAD CANCELED OUR IFR FLT PLAN BEFORE CLBING TO 3500 FT. I DID WHAT MY INSTRUCTOR TOLD ME TO, WHICH IN RETROSPECT, I SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE. HAD I NOT HAD TROUBLE WITH MY LNDG GEAR, I WOULD HAVE WRITTEN THE ALT DOWN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.