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Trainee lost control of conventional gear aircraft on landing roll resulting in going off side of runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 272683 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199406 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ptk |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 800 flight time type : 6 |
| ASRS Report | 272683 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 40 |
| ASRS Report | 272828 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During landing, I made a normal crosswind approach and during recovery from what started to be a ground loop. I had to add power to keep the plane under ctrl. At that time my only option was to continue straight ahead through the grass, between the taxiway and the runway. Tower asked if we needed assistance. We declined because there were no problems. I would like to say that pontiac rescue was very quick to react. Supplemental information from acn 272828: while practicing crosswind lndgs in a tailwheel type aircraft, my student and I allowed the airplane to leave the runway and enter the grass between the runway 27L and delta taxiway at ptk airport. The incident was caused by insufficient control deflection during the ground roll. No damage was done to the aircraft or airport environment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRAINEE LOST CTL OF CONVENTIONAL GEAR ACFT ON LNDG ROLL RESULTING IN GOING OFF SIDE OF RWY.
Narrative: DURING LNDG, I MADE A NORMAL XWIND APCH AND DURING RECOVERY FROM WHAT STARTED TO BE A GND LOOP. I HAD TO ADD PWR TO KEEP THE PLANE UNDER CTRL. AT THAT TIME MY ONLY OPTION WAS TO CONTINUE STRAIGHT AHEAD THROUGH THE GRASS, BTWN THE TXWY AND THE RWY. TWR ASKED IF WE NEEDED ASSISTANCE. WE DECLINED BECAUSE THERE WERE NO PROBS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT PONTIAC RESCUE WAS VERY QUICK TO REACT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 272828: WHILE PRACTICING XWIND LNDGS IN A TAILWHEEL TYPE ACFT, MY STUDENT AND I ALLOWED THE AIRPLANE TO LEAVE THE RWY AND ENTER THE GRASS BTWN THE RWY 27L AND DELTA TXWY AT PTK ARPT. THE INCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY INSUFFICIENT CTL DEFLECTION DURING THE GND ROLL. NO DAMAGE WAS DONE TO THE ACFT OR ARPT ENVIRONMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.