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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 269381 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199404 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : jli |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 25000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tracon : sdf |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Sail Plane |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 46 flight time total : 1627 flight time type : 650 |
| ASRS Report | 269381 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was operating a sailplane on an IFR flight plan in class a airspace with an assigned block altitude. I was unable to fly within the block altitude assigned and was not able to receive a clearance before I descended below the block altitude. I attribute my inability to properly coordinate a lower altitude in time to frequency congestion and the severity of the sinking air mass. As the pilot I needed to anticipate higher sink rates and frequency congestion. The solution is to ask for a larger block altitude based on the conditions and call with a more generous margin before coming near the bottom of the block. For the controller, it is better to put traffic above rather than below a sailplane. A sailplane can easily control ascents and will rarely have a problem breaking a maximum altitude. Dscnts are easy and can be rapid in a sailplane however sometimes they cannot be controlled. If there is a potential conflict the controller needs to resolve, the sailplane can move down easily.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SAILPLANE IN CLASS A DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED BLOCK ALT.
Narrative: I WAS OPERATING A SAILPLANE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN IN CLASS A AIRSPACE WITH AN ASSIGNED BLOCK ALT. I WAS UNABLE TO FLY WITHIN THE BLOCK ALT ASSIGNED AND WAS NOT ABLE TO RECEIVE A CLRNC BEFORE I DSNDED BELOW THE BLOCK ALT. I ATTRIBUTE MY INABILITY TO PROPERLY COORDINATE A LOWER ALT IN TIME TO FREQ CONGESTION AND THE SEVERITY OF THE SINKING AIR MASS. AS THE PLT I NEEDED TO ANTICIPATE HIGHER SINK RATES AND FREQ CONGESTION. THE SOLUTION IS TO ASK FOR A LARGER BLOCK ALT BASED ON THE CONDITIONS AND CALL WITH A MORE GENEROUS MARGIN BEFORE COMING NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE BLOCK. FOR THE CTLR, IT IS BETTER TO PUT TFC ABOVE RATHER THAN BELOW A SAILPLANE. A SAILPLANE CAN EASILY CTL ASCENTS AND WILL RARELY HAVE A PROB BREAKING A MAXIMUM ALT. DSCNTS ARE EASY AND CAN BE RAPID IN A SAILPLANE HOWEVER SOMETIMES THEY CANNOT BE CONTROLLED. IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT THE CTLR NEEDS TO RESOLVE, THE SAILPLANE CAN MOVE DOWN EASILY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.