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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 260779 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199401 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 260779 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The airplane had a very thin layer of smooth brittle ice about 4 inches wide on the de-ice boots of main wing and tail. Airplane was cranked and taxied away from FBO to remote section of ramp where engine power was increased for runup and de-ice boots were activated and cycled properly and I observed all ice depart the boots. We then continued the taxi and takeoff. During this period apparently 2 FAA representatives were observing our operation. They did not observe our de-ice operation. They talked with my supervisor indicating that I had taken off with ice on the airplane. I did not. They requested I contact them. I did. They did not indicate that they would take any action. I did not takeoff with ice on the airplane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CORP SMT HAS ICE ON WINGS. TAXI TO REMOTE SPOT TO CYCLE DE-ICE BOOTS.
Narrative: THE AIRPLANE HAD A VERY THIN LAYER OF SMOOTH BRITTLE ICE ABOUT 4 INCHES WIDE ON THE DE-ICE BOOTS OF MAIN WING AND TAIL. AIRPLANE WAS CRANKED AND TAXIED AWAY FROM FBO TO REMOTE SECTION OF RAMP WHERE ENG PWR WAS INCREASED FOR RUNUP AND DE-ICE BOOTS WERE ACTIVATED AND CYCLED PROPERLY AND I OBSERVED ALL ICE DEPART THE BOOTS. WE THEN CONTINUED THE TAXI AND TKOF. DURING THIS PERIOD APPARENTLY 2 FAA REPRESENTATIVES WERE OBSERVING OUR OP. THEY DID NOT OBSERVE OUR DE-ICE OP. THEY TALKED WITH MY SUPVR INDICATING THAT I HAD TAKEN OFF WITH ICE ON THE AIRPLANE. I DID NOT. THEY REQUESTED I CONTACT THEM. I DID. THEY DID NOT INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD TAKE ANY ACTION. I DID NOT TKOF WITH ICE ON THE AIRPLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.