|37000 Feet||Browse and search NASA's
Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : fdk|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||ground : preflight|
ground other : taxi
|Function||instruction : instructor|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : cfi|
pilot : commercial
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 170|
flight time total : 1600
flight time type : 160
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
instruction : trainee
|Qualification||pilot : student|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other other : unspecified|
|Consequence||faa : investigated|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
My student and I started the preflight walkaround. We found out that there was a lot of frost on the wings so we used a broom and a rag to clean the plane. This whole process took us 40 mins, then finally the sun came up higher and started melting the parts that were exposed. We decided to turn the plane in such a position that the rest of the surfaces were also exposed. After 10 mins, the plane was completely clean of frost, the total time that we used to clean and defrost the plane was 50 mins! We started the engines and taxied out for a quick local flight. When we crossed the GA ramp, 2 people noticed us and filed complaints with the local FSDO, stating that we elected to fly a plane with frost on it! This is not true because there was no accumulation of frost or ice during taxi and pretkof period. Therefore, there could not have been frost or other frozen particles on the plane's surface when these 2 people took notice of us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACCUSED BY UNKNOWN OBSERVERS OF FLYING AN ACFT CARRYING FROST.
Narrative: MY STUDENT AND I STARTED THE PREFLT WALKAROUND. WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF FROST ON THE WINGS SO WE USED A BROOM AND A RAG TO CLEAN THE PLANE. THIS WHOLE PROCESS TOOK US 40 MINS, THEN FINALLY THE SUN CAME UP HIGHER AND STARTED MELTING THE PARTS THAT WERE EXPOSED. WE DECIDED TO TURN THE PLANE IN SUCH A POS THAT THE REST OF THE SURFACES WERE ALSO EXPOSED. AFTER 10 MINS, THE PLANE WAS COMPLETELY CLEAN OF FROST, THE TOTAL TIME THAT WE USED TO CLEAN AND DEFROST THE PLANE WAS 50 MINS! WE STARTED THE ENGS AND TAXIED OUT FOR A QUICK LCL FLT. WHEN WE CROSSED THE GA RAMP, 2 PEOPLE NOTICED US AND FILED COMPLAINTS WITH THE LCL FSDO, STATING THAT WE ELECTED TO FLY A PLANE WITH FROST ON IT! THIS IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ACCUMULATION OF FROST OR ICE DURING TAXI AND PRETKOF PERIOD. THEREFORE, THERE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN FROST OR OTHER FROZEN PARTICLES ON THE PLANE'S SURFACE WHEN THESE 2 PEOPLE TOOK NOTICE OF US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.