Commuter small transport chewed out for descent at 500 FPM.

Attributes
ACN	247316
Time
Date	199307
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : tth
State Reference	IL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17600
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zkc tower : lga
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 1400
ASRS Report	247316
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

ATC ZKC cleared us to climb to FL190. Upon reaching and level off at FL190, ZKC cleared us 'descend to 17000 ft with your discretion to 11000 ft. We then started a 500 FPM descent to 17000 ft. At about 17600 ft and descending, ATC said 'I want you at 17000 ft in 10 seconds...I don't appreciate what you're doing to me.' I politely reminded him that he never gave any kind of time frame or restriction for the descent, and that we could have increased the descent if asked to do so. Inactions of ATC, in rate of descent requested. ATC seemed to try to put the blame on the flight crew.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: COMMUTER SMT CHEWED OUT FOR DSCNT AT 500 FPM.

Narrative: ATC ZKC CLRED US TO CLB TO FL190. UPON REACHING AND LEVEL OFF AT FL190, ZKC CLRED US 'DSND TO 17000 FT WITH YOUR DISCRETION TO 11000 FT. WE THEN STARTED A 500 FPM DSCNT TO 17000 FT. AT ABOUT 17600 FT AND DSNDING, ATC SAID 'I WANT YOU AT 17000 FT IN 10 SECONDS...I DON'T APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO ME.' I POLITELY REMINDED HIM THAT HE NEVER GAVE ANY KIND OF TIME FRAME OR RESTRICTION FOR THE DSCNT, AND THAT WE COULD HAVE INCREASED THE DSCNT IF ASKED TO DO SO. INACTIONS OF ATC, IN RATE OF DSCNT REQUESTED. ATC SEEMED TO TRY TO PUT THE BLAME ON THE FLC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.