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Medium large transport first officer flying with expired temporary certificate. Address mixup and permanent not received.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 241836 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199305 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz |
| State Reference | US |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 241836 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | observation : air carrier inspector |
| Qualification | other other : other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Got type rating on ATP certificate on nov/tue/92. Temporary certificate expired 120 days later. Prior to expiration of temporary certificate, I had extension faxed to me on mar/fri/93. 2 days later while en route on trip, I discovered that extension to the temporary to the permanent had expired. Original permanent certificate was taken from me at time of temporary issuance. On previous pilot certificates, I have always listed a post office box as a permanent address. At the air carrier inspector's insistance, a post office box and street number and name were listed as my mailing address. I was later informed by the postal service that dual addressed mail is returned to sender. Before temporary expired, I contacted FAA to correct the address problem. I was told address correction was made at the time my extension was faxed to me. More than 60 days have passed since correction was supposedly made by FAA, and I still do not have my permanent certificate. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states he made many more calls to okc, received facsimile with extension of temporary certificate again. Finally received permanent copy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG FO FLYING WITH EXPIRED TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE. ADDRESS MIXUP AND PERMANENT NOT RECEIVED.
Narrative: GOT TYPE RATING ON ATP CERTIFICATE ON NOV/TUE/92. TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE EXPIRED 120 DAYS LATER. PRIOR TO EXPIRATION OF TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE, I HAD EXTENSION FAXED TO ME ON MAR/FRI/93. 2 DAYS LATER WHILE ENRTE ON TRIP, I DISCOVERED THAT EXTENSION TO THE TEMPORARY TO THE PERMANENT HAD EXPIRED. ORIGINAL PERMANENT CERTIFICATE WAS TAKEN FROM ME AT TIME OF TEMPORARY ISSUANCE. ON PREVIOUS PLT CERTIFICATES, I HAVE ALWAYS LISTED A POST OFFICE BOX AS A PERMANENT ADDRESS. AT THE ACR INSPECTOR'S INSISTANCE, A POST OFFICE BOX AND STREET NUMBER AND NAME WERE LISTED AS MY MAILING ADDRESS. I WAS LATER INFORMED BY THE POSTAL SVC THAT DUAL ADDRESSED MAIL IS RETURNED TO SENDER. BEFORE TEMPORARY EXPIRED, I CONTACTED FAA TO CORRECT THE ADDRESS PROB. I WAS TOLD ADDRESS CORRECTION WAS MADE AT THE TIME MY EXTENSION WAS FAXED TO ME. MORE THAN 60 DAYS HAVE PASSED SINCE CORRECTION WAS SUPPOSEDLY MADE BY FAA, AND I STILL DO NOT HAVE MY PERMANENT CERTIFICATE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HE MADE MANY MORE CALLS TO OKC, RECEIVED FAX WITH EXTENSION OF TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE AGAIN. FINALLY RECEIVED PERMANENT COPY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.