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Controller is concerned about an IFR departure that requires aircraft to make a right climbing turn towards the control tower.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 240752 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199305 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ral |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mke |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| ASRS Report | 240752 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
No occurrence, incident or accident. This is a safety question and concern for departing IFR aircraft departing runway 9. Current departure procedure 'climbing right turn direct pdz.' the control tower is an obstruction for any aircraft rotating within the first 5/8 of the runway and beginning their climbing right turn. This is a concern during restr visibility and of course 0/0 departures. The old departure procedure that was in effect a few months ago called for departing on runway heading until reaching 1300 ft then climbing right turn direct pdz. Another option maybe is to let the pilot know about the obstruction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR IS CONCERNED ABOUT AN IFR DEP THAT REQUIRES ACFT TO MAKE A R CLBING TURN TOWARDS THE CTL TWR.
Narrative: NO OCCURRENCE, INCIDENT OR ACCIDENT. THIS IS A SAFETY QUESTION AND CONCERN FOR DEPARTING IFR ACFT DEPARTING RWY 9. CURRENT DEP PROC 'CLBING R TURN DIRECT PDZ.' THE CTL TWR IS AN OBSTRUCTION FOR ANY ACFT ROTATING WITHIN THE FIRST 5/8 OF THE RWY AND BEGINNING THEIR CLBING R TURN. THIS IS A CONCERN DURING RESTR VISIBILITY AND OF COURSE 0/0 DEPS. THE OLD DEP PROC THAT WAS IN EFFECT A FEW MONTHS AGO CALLED FOR DEPARTING ON RWY HDG UNTIL REACHING 1300 FT THEN CLBING R TURN DIRECT PDZ. ANOTHER OPTION MAYBE IS TO LET THE PLT KNOW ABOUT THE OBSTRUCTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.