Air carrier in holding pattern extends beyond 10 mi as cleared.

Attributes
ACN	238981
Time
Date	199303
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : okk
State Reference	IN
Altitude	msl bound lower : 22000 msl bound upper : 22000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zau
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 300
ASRS Report	238981
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Holding instructions were hold southeast as published 10 mi legs, expect further clearance of XY35, entered at XY22. Wind 270 at 70 KTS. Captain was having a hard time flying pattern. It was almost impossible to stay in because of the slant range on the DME and the wind. We only were given 10 DME. Station passage was occurring at 3.6 DME because of the slant range, so we only ad 6.4 DME for a pattern. Captain decided to adjust the pattern as deep as needed, but without calling center to advise. He decided to set to 20 DME and beyond. Center called at 27 DME and asked where we were going. I had advised the captain to call center but he is all knowing! Have you ever tried to talk to a brick? I.e., lack of cockpit resource management. Other aircraft were also having problems.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR IN HOLDING PATTERN EXTENDS BEYOND 10 MI AS CLRED.

Narrative: HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS WERE HOLD SE AS PUBLISHED 10 MI LEGS, EXPECT FURTHER CLRNC OF XY35, ENTERED AT XY22. WIND 270 AT 70 KTS. CAPT WAS HAVING A HARD TIME FLYING PATTERN. IT WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO STAY IN BECAUSE OF THE SLANT RANGE ON THE DME AND THE WIND. WE ONLY WERE GIVEN 10 DME. STATION PASSAGE WAS OCCURRING AT 3.6 DME BECAUSE OF THE SLANT RANGE, SO WE ONLY AD 6.4 DME FOR A PATTERN. CAPT DECIDED TO ADJUST THE PATTERN AS DEEP AS NEEDED, BUT WITHOUT CALLING CTR TO ADVISE. HE DECIDED TO SET TO 20 DME AND BEYOND. CTR CALLED AT 27 DME AND ASKED WHERE WE WERE GOING. I HAD ADVISED THE CAPT TO CALL CTR BUT HE IS ALL KNOWING! HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO TALK TO A BRICK? I.E., LACK OF COCKPIT RESOURCE MGMNT. OTHER ACFT WERE ALSO HAVING PROBS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.