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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||airport : bgr|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng|
|Navigation In Use||Other |
|Flight Phase||landing other|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 210|
flight time total : 9000
flight time type : 800
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : commercial
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : unable|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
Cleared to land runway 15 by tower, we were not issued any braking action reports by tower. ATIS advised fair to good. On rollout, aircraft fishtailed a little as we applied brakes and reverse. There were patches of snow and ice in the rollout zone. I took the aircraft from the first officer at about 70 KTS, stowed the reverse. We immediately gave the tower a braking action report of poor. He then told us to expedite to the end due to landing traffic. About 2000 ft from the end of the runway it appeared clear of any snow or accumulations. About 1000 ft from the end I started to apply the brakes. There was absolutely no braking action at all. We then applied maximum reverse thrust, maximum braking. I had the nosewheel turned trying to get the aircraft off the runway and onto the taxiway at the end. The aircraft was sliding now almost sideways on a sheet of ice. Somehow we got the aircraft onto the taxiway at the end of the runway, but still sliding. The aircraft came to rest just past the blue taxi lights in the snow. Not knowing where we were (on pavement, or ground) or if we hit any lights or had any aircraft damage, an airport tug was called. That was used to push aircraft back onto txwys, etc. A mechanic inspected the aircraft. There was no damage and somehow we hadn't even hit a taxi light. They pushed us back onto the taxiway and we proceeded into the gate without further incident. We reported a nil braking action report. Factors: no braking action reports from tower, told to expedite to end due to landing traffic which we thought was our company. No visual clues in last 3000 ft of runway. Also, since runway 15/33 is over 11000 ft long and mostly small aircraft had been landing, the last 3000 ft had probably not been used in the last hour. After our reports they closed the runway and sanded and added chemicals. It seems that when conditions warrant the whole runway should be checked by a vehicle, and not just use aircraft reports that are only evaluating the first 3000 ft of an 11000 ft runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR SLIDES OFF TXWY ATTEMPTING TO CLR RWY FOR INCOMING TFC.
Narrative: CLRED TO LAND RWY 15 BY TWR, WE WERE NOT ISSUED ANY BRAKING ACTION RPTS BY TWR. ATIS ADVISED FAIR TO GOOD. ON ROLLOUT, ACFT FISHTAILED A LITTLE AS WE APPLIED BRAKES AND REVERSE. THERE WERE PATCHES OF SNOW AND ICE IN THE ROLLOUT ZONE. I TOOK THE ACFT FROM THE FO AT ABOUT 70 KTS, STOWED THE REVERSE. WE IMMEDIATELY GAVE THE TWR A BRAKING ACTION RPT OF POOR. HE THEN TOLD US TO EXPEDITE TO THE END DUE TO LNDG TFC. ABOUT 2000 FT FROM THE END OF THE RWY IT APPEARED CLR OF ANY SNOW OR ACCUMULATIONS. ABOUT 1000 FT FROM THE END I STARTED TO APPLY THE BRAKES. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO BRAKING ACTION AT ALL. WE THEN APPLIED MAX REVERSE THRUST, MAX BRAKING. I HAD THE NOSEWHEEL TURNED TRYING TO GET THE ACFT OFF THE RWY AND ONTO THE TXWY AT THE END. THE ACFT WAS SLIDING NOW ALMOST SIDEWAYS ON A SHEET OF ICE. SOMEHOW WE GOT THE ACFT ONTO THE TXWY AT THE END OF THE RWY, BUT STILL SLIDING. THE ACFT CAME TO REST JUST PAST THE BLUE TAXI LIGHTS IN THE SNOW. NOT KNOWING WHERE WE WERE (ON PAVEMENT, OR GND) OR IF WE HIT ANY LIGHTS OR HAD ANY ACFT DAMAGE, AN ARPT TUG WAS CALLED. THAT WAS USED TO PUSH ACFT BACK ONTO TXWYS, ETC. A MECH INSPECTED THE ACFT. THERE WAS NO DAMAGE AND SOMEHOW WE HADN'T EVEN HIT A TAXI LIGHT. THEY PUSHED US BACK ONTO THE TXWY AND WE PROCEEDED INTO THE GATE WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. WE RPTED A NIL BRAKING ACTION RPT. FACTORS: NO BRAKING ACTION RPTS FROM TWR, TOLD TO EXPEDITE TO END DUE TO LNDG TFC WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS OUR COMPANY. NO VISUAL CLUES IN LAST 3000 FT OF RWY. ALSO, SINCE RWY 15/33 IS OVER 11000 FT LONG AND MOSTLY SMALL ACFT HAD BEEN LNDG, THE LAST 3000 FT HAD PROBABLY NOT BEEN USED IN THE LAST HR. AFTER OUR RPTS THEY CLOSED THE RWY AND SANDED AND ADDED CHEMICALS. IT SEEMS THAT WHEN CONDITIONS WARRANT THE WHOLE RWY SHOULD BE CHKED BY A VEHICLE, AND NOT JUST USE ACFT RPTS THAT ARE ONLY EVALUATING THE FIRST 3000 FT OF AN 11000 FT RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.