An air carrier first officer received IOE training from 2 capts that were not fully qualified.

Attributes
ACN	235083
Time
Date	199302
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz
State Reference	US
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4540 flight time type : 38
ASRS Report	235083
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence other
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

As the final portion of my training program as an medium large transport-a first officer, I was receiving IOE. After receiving my last IOE on mar/wed/93, I was released to line flying. 2 days later I was contacted by our training scheduler and told that the first 2 IOE's didn't count since the first 2 IOE instructors were not technically 'qualified' and fully blessed by the FAA to give IOE. Apparently the FAA had orally agreed to let the 2 guys give IOE and then later decided, after-the-fact, that the 2 instructors needed written authorization from the FAA, thus making both IOE's null and void. After talking with 1 instructor, who's been previously qualified on the large transport and medium large transport-B as an instructor/IOE captain, all that's needed to make him 'fully qualified' on the medium large transport-B is a letter of authorization.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR FO RECEIVED IOE TRAINING FROM 2 CAPTS THAT WERE NOT FULLY QUALIFIED.

Narrative: AS THE FINAL PORTION OF MY TRAINING PROGRAM AS AN MLG-A FO, I WAS RECEIVING IOE. AFTER RECEIVING MY LAST IOE ON MAR/WED/93, I WAS RELEASED TO LINE FLYING. 2 DAYS LATER I WAS CONTACTED BY OUR TRAINING SCHEDULER AND TOLD THAT THE FIRST 2 IOE'S DIDN'T COUNT SINCE THE FIRST 2 IOE INSTRUCTORS WERE NOT TECHNICALLY 'QUALIFIED' AND FULLY BLESSED BY THE FAA TO GIVE IOE. APPARENTLY THE FAA HAD ORALLY AGREED TO LET THE 2 GUYS GIVE IOE AND THEN LATER DECIDED, AFTER-THE-FACT, THAT THE 2 INSTRUCTORS NEEDED WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION FROM THE FAA, THUS MAKING BOTH IOE'S NULL AND VOID. AFTER TALKING WITH 1 INSTRUCTOR, WHO'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY QUALIFIED ON THE LGT AND MLG-B AS AN INSTRUCTOR/IOE CAPT, ALL THAT'S NEEDED TO MAKE HIM 'FULLY QUALIFIED' ON THE MLG-B IS A LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.