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|Locale Reference||atc facility : mjzs|
|Controlling Facilities||artcc : mjzs|
|Make Model Name||Military Trainer|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : radar|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Experience||controller military : 4|
controller non radar : 7
controller radar : 7
|Affiliation||government : military|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : military|
|Anomaly||non adherence : published procedure|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : unable|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Operational Deviation|
|ATC Facility||procedure or policy : unspecified|
In 1992, there were 2 major military exercises. All airspace that could be active was used. On the first exercise, the first briefing any controller got was when they got to the sector to work. With the amount of airspace being used with different altitudes, corridors, it was very confusing and, in my opinion unsafe. I brought it to the attention of the facility manager. He brought in the plans and programs assistant manager and we discussed it. They advised they would ensure a proper briefing ahead of time for controllers on the next exercise. Well, the next one came, it lasted 2 weeks and was bigger the previous one, and there was no briefing before until you went to plug into the sector to work. I feel during these times because of the lack of knowledge before hand, there were airspace violations that were not only not reported, but controllers were probably unaware of them because there were so many different altitudes and areas active it would be impossible to learn them in a 5 or 10 min pre-duty briefing at the sector. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states that incidents occurred during oct and nov of last yr. However, he is not exactly sure of dates. He said that the facility does not actually work the military aircraft, but work all of their traffic around the restr airspace. In 1 case, they had to climb aircraft to FL310 before proceeding outbound on the airway when all they needed to do is climb FL190. There was no briefing on either military exercise. No ucr filed. Lack of coordination is the main complaint.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR CLAIMS THAT THEY DID NOT GET ADEQUATE FACILITY BRIEFING ON MIL FLT EXERCISE WHICH RESULTED IN SOME ACFT ENTERING OTHER CTLR'S AIRSPACE WITHOUT COORD.
Narrative: IN 1992, THERE WERE 2 MAJOR MIL EXERCISES. ALL AIRSPACE THAT COULD BE ACTIVE WAS USED. ON THE FIRST EXERCISE, THE FIRST BRIEFING ANY CTLR GOT WAS WHEN THEY GOT TO THE SECTOR TO WORK. WITH THE AMOUNT OF AIRSPACE BEING USED WITH DIFFERENT ALTS, CORRIDORS, IT WAS VERY CONFUSING AND, IN MY OPINION UNSAFE. I BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTN OF THE FACILITY MGR. HE BROUGHT IN THE PLANS AND PROGRAMS ASSISTANT MGR AND WE DISCUSSED IT. THEY ADVISED THEY WOULD ENSURE A PROPER BRIEFING AHEAD OF TIME FOR CTLRS ON THE NEXT EXERCISE. WELL, THE NEXT ONE CAME, IT LASTED 2 WKS AND WAS BIGGER THE PREVIOUS ONE, AND THERE WAS NO BRIEFING BEFORE UNTIL YOU WENT TO PLUG INTO THE SECTOR TO WORK. I FEEL DURING THESE TIMES BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE BEFORE HAND, THERE WERE AIRSPACE VIOLATIONS THAT WERE NOT ONLY NOT RPTED, BUT CTLRS WERE PROBABLY UNAWARE OF THEM BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT ALTS AND AREAS ACTIVE IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO LEARN THEM IN A 5 OR 10 MIN PRE-DUTY BRIEFING AT THE SECTOR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THAT INCIDENTS OCCURRED DURING OCT AND NOV OF LAST YR. HOWEVER, HE IS NOT EXACTLY SURE OF DATES. HE SAID THAT THE FACILITY DOES NOT ACTUALLY WORK THE MIL ACFT, BUT WORK ALL OF THEIR TFC AROUND THE RESTR AIRSPACE. IN 1 CASE, THEY HAD TO CLB ACFT TO FL310 BEFORE PROCEEDING OUTBOUND ON THE AIRWAY WHEN ALL THEY NEEDED TO DO IS CLB FL190. THERE WAS NO BRIEFING ON EITHER MIL EXERCISE. NO UCR FILED. LACK OF COORD IS THE MAIN COMPLAINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.