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Medium large transport crew shoots an unauthorized ASR approach to runway 18 when the ILS runway is closed.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 227644 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199211 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sav |
| State Reference | GA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sav |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2600 |
| ASRS Report | 227644 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On ILS approach to sav runway 09. GS failed at 500 ft AGL on the approach. Initiated go around and informed tower of GS problem. Requested vectors for another ILS runway 9. At that time, an air carrier X flight behind us said they had a good GS. During our second ILS to runway 9, the tower told us to abandon the approach as air carrier X thought they hit something on runway 9 and the runway was now closed. We were given the option of an ASR to runway 18. After considering our alternatives, had low visibility and fog with thunderstorm deviations en route to our alternate, we elected for safety reasons to do the ASR runway 18. We landed safely with no further incident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter never did find out what the preceding aircraft had hit. He said he filed the report to explain why he shot an ASR approach when his air carrier is no longer authorized to shoot such approachs. He couldn't remember if the ILS approach to runway 36 was available.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG CREW SHOOTS AN UNAUTHORIZED ASR APCH TO RWY 18 WHEN THE ILS RWY IS CLOSED.
Narrative: ON ILS APCH TO SAV RWY 09. GS FAILED AT 500 FT AGL ON THE APCH. INITIATED GAR AND INFORMED TWR OF GS PROBLEM. REQUESTED VECTORS FOR ANOTHER ILS RWY 9. AT THAT TIME, AN ACR X FLT BEHIND US SAID THEY HAD A GOOD GS. DURING OUR SECOND ILS TO RWY 9, THE TWR TOLD US TO ABANDON THE APCH AS ACR X THOUGHT THEY HIT SOMETHING ON RWY 9 AND THE RWY WAS NOW CLOSED. WE WERE GIVEN THE OPTION OF AN ASR TO RWY 18. AFTER CONSIDERING OUR ALTERNATIVES, HAD LOW VISIBILITY AND FOG WITH TSTM DEVS ENRTE TO OUR ALTERNATE, WE ELECTED FOR SAFETY REASONS TO DO THE ASR RWY 18. WE LANDED SAFELY WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR NEVER DID FIND OUT WHAT THE PRECEDING ACFT HAD HIT. HE SAID HE FILED THE RPT TO EXPLAIN WHY HE SHOT AN ASR APCH WHEN HIS ACR IS NO LONGER AUTHORIZED TO SHOOT SUCH APCHS. HE COULDN'T REMEMBER IF THE ILS APCH TO RWY 36 WAS AVAILABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.