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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 226747 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199211 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : btf airport : btw airport : slc |
| State Reference | UT |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : slc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 550 |
| ASRS Report | 226747 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I departed skypark airport for a VFR flight to toa, ca. I estimated ceiling and visibility at skypark to be 5000 ft and 7-50 mi with visibility (snow shower) lower to the south. I departed and called slc approach for a TCA clearance sbound. The controller said he was unable because slc visibility was reported at 2 mi. I then asked for a vector through the TCA and told him I was instrument rated. He complied and I entered and exited the TCA en route to toa. I wondered later if I was legal to depart skypark which is located under the TCA when slc was reporting 2 mi visibility even though visibility at skypark was good. I called our local FSDO and asked if I was legal. The gentleman said he thought so, but couldn't tell by referring to the new, just-released, airspace charts. I called slc approach and same story -- 'we think so, but we're not sure.' I'm suggesting the new airspace charts should be a little clrer because if the FAA (FSDO) doesn't know, I wonder how I'm supposed to know.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA DEPARTS UNCTLED ARPT BENEATH TCA. REQUESTS CLRNC THROUGH TCA WHICH HAS 2 MI VISIBILITY. CLRED THROUGH.
Narrative: I DEPARTED SKYPARK ARPT FOR A VFR FLT TO TOA, CA. I ESTIMATED CEILING AND VISIBILITY AT SKYPARK TO BE 5000 FT AND 7-50 MI WITH VISIBILITY (SNOW SHOWER) LOWER TO THE S. I DEPARTED AND CALLED SLC APCH FOR A TCA CLRNC SBOUND. THE CTLR SAID HE WAS UNABLE BECAUSE SLC VISIBILITY WAS RPTED AT 2 MI. I THEN ASKED FOR A VECTOR THROUGH THE TCA AND TOLD HIM I WAS INST RATED. HE COMPLIED AND I ENTERED AND EXITED THE TCA ENRTE TO TOA. I WONDERED LATER IF I WAS LEGAL TO DEPART SKYPARK WHICH IS LOCATED UNDER THE TCA WHEN SLC WAS RPTING 2 MI VISIBILITY EVEN THOUGH VISIBILITY AT SKYPARK WAS GOOD. I CALLED OUR LCL FSDO AND ASKED IF I WAS LEGAL. THE GENTLEMAN SAID HE THOUGHT SO, BUT COULDN'T TELL BY REFERRING TO THE NEW, JUST-RELEASED, AIRSPACE CHARTS. I CALLED SLC APCH AND SAME STORY -- 'WE THINK SO, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE.' I'M SUGGESTING THE NEW AIRSPACE CHARTS SHOULD BE A LITTLE CLRER BECAUSE IF THE FAA (FSDO) DOESN'T KNOW, I WONDER HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO KNOW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.