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Small transport X clearance interpretation. Pilot thought IFR, controller thought VFR. TRACON interfacility coordination.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 226057 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199211 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : luk |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2050 |
| ASRS Report | 226057 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6700 |
| ASRS Report | 226225 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
My instructor and I departed I69 to practice approachs as part of my ATP training. The WX had deteriorated, so on becoming airborne, my instructor called cvg approach control on 121.0 for a 'pop-up' IFR clearance while I maintained VFR. Approach cleared us from I69 to I69, gave us a transponder code 04XX (usually reserved for VFR we realized later) and instructed us to climb to 3000 ft. We entered IFR on climb and continued our heading he gave us to luk. When cleared for the ILS 20L luk, the controller told us to maintain VFR. I advised him I was IMC, to which he replied, 'do you have an IFR clearance?' 'yes, sir.' I answered. Small transport X was given a different squawk code, 4XXX, which is more usual for IFR at cvg.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT X CLRNC INTERP. PLT THOUGHT IFR, CTLR THOUGHT VFR. TRACON INTERFAC COORD.
Narrative: MY INSTRUCTOR AND I DEPARTED I69 TO PRACTICE APCHS AS PART OF MY ATP TRAINING. THE WX HAD DETERIORATED, SO ON BECOMING AIRBORNE, MY INSTRUCTOR CALLED CVG APCH CTL ON 121.0 FOR A 'POP-UP' IFR CLRNC WHILE I MAINTAINED VFR. APCH CLRED US FROM I69 TO I69, GAVE US A TRANSPONDER CODE 04XX (USUALLY RESERVED FOR VFR WE REALIZED LATER) AND INSTRUCTED US TO CLB TO 3000 FT. WE ENTERED IFR ON CLB AND CONTINUED OUR HDG HE GAVE US TO LUK. WHEN CLRED FOR THE ILS 20L LUK, THE CTLR TOLD US TO MAINTAIN VFR. I ADVISED HIM I WAS IMC, TO WHICH HE REPLIED, 'DO YOU HAVE AN IFR CLRNC?' 'YES, SIR.' I ANSWERED. SMT X WAS GIVEN A DIFFERENT SQUAWK CODE, 4XXX, WHICH IS MORE USUAL FOR IFR AT CVG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.