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The data base on a widebody transport air carrier attempted to send the aircraft to colima, mexico when the crew asked for colts neck, nj. Both are col.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 224363 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199210 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : col airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 224363 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon departure, lga departure control altered routing to direct col, direct white vice radar vector white. First officer entered col identifier into FMS navigation system and began following course information. Col in data bank of FMS was later verified 1900 mi from col. Departure controller questioned 260 degree heading for colts neck. First officer selected #2 VOR navigation and noted VOR needle erratic and DME 000. Captain confirmed proper VOR tuning and indications and requested direct white. Controller again reiterated clearance direct col direct white. Captain tuned #1 VOR to col. First officer utilizing #1 VOR, flew cse 125 to col. Investigation revealed FMS data bank for col incorrect and #2 VOR/DME inoperative without any indications. Identify okay all frequencys FMS data bank coordinates for col discovered to be 19 degrees 16.3 min north 103 degrees 34.6 mins west vice 40 degrees 18.7 mins north 74 degrees 09.6 mins west. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this report seems to be a match of a previous problem with colts neck/colima having the same identifier, col the reporter in this incident states that the anomaly is still in the data base. He and others have tried to get company management to make a change, but to no avail so far. This reporter states that there are other holes in the data base, specifically including the nanci 4 arrival into lga and the darbs 1 arrival into tpa. He promises to continue to fight to improve the data base.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE DATA BASE ON A WDB ACR ATTEMPTED TO SEND THE ACFT TO COLIMA, MEXICO WHEN THE CREW ASKED FOR COLTS NECK, NJ. BOTH ARE COL.
Narrative: UPON DEP, LGA DEP CTL ALTERED RTING TO DIRECT COL, DIRECT WHITE VICE RADAR VECTOR WHITE. FO ENTERED COL IDENTIFIER INTO FMS NAV SYS AND BEGAN FOLLOWING COURSE INFO. COL IN DATA BANK OF FMS WAS LATER VERIFIED 1900 MI FROM COL. DEP CTLR QUESTIONED 260 DEG HDG FOR COLTS NECK. FO SELECTED #2 VOR NAV AND NOTED VOR NEEDLE ERRATIC AND DME 000. CAPT CONFIRMED PROPER VOR TUNING AND INDICATIONS AND REQUESTED DIRECT WHITE. CTLR AGAIN REITERATED CLRNC DIRECT COL DIRECT WHITE. CAPT TUNED #1 VOR TO COL. FO UTILIZING #1 VOR, FLEW CSE 125 TO COL. INVESTIGATION REVEALED FMS DATA BANK FOR COL INCORRECT AND #2 VOR/DME INOP WITHOUT ANY INDICATIONS. IDENT OKAY ALL FREQS FMS DATA BANK COORDINATES FOR COL DISCOVERED TO BE 19 DEGS 16.3 MIN N 103 DEGS 34.6 MINS W VICE 40 DEGS 18.7 MINS N 74 DEGS 09.6 MINS W. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS RPT SEEMS TO BE A MATCH OF A PREVIOUS PROBLEM WITH COLTS NECK/COLIMA HAVING THE SAME IDENTIFIER, COL THE RPTR IN THIS INCIDENT STATES THAT THE ANOMALY IS STILL IN THE DATA BASE. HE AND OTHERS HAVE TRIED TO GET COMPANY MGMNT TO MAKE A CHANGE, BUT TO NO AVAIL SO FAR. THIS RPTR STATES THAT THERE ARE OTHER HOLES IN THE DATA BASE, SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING THE NANCI 4 ARR INTO LGA AND THE DARBS 1 ARR INTO TPA. HE PROMISES TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT TO IMPROVE THE DATA BASE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.