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An small aircraft had an near midair collision with an small transport. Both aircraft were doing instrument training in marginal WX, but the reporting aircraft was not yet under ATC control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 222463 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199210 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fll |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : fll |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 1230 |
| ASRS Report | 222463 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In climbing left turn from 1500 ft heading 270 degrees to 2000 ft, 180 degrees, overflown by an small transport on heading of 270 degrees, 2200 ft. Other aircraft conducting training on IFR flight plan. Traffic not called by ATC for either aircraft. WX -- light rain, approximately 4 mi visibility. Our aircraft had just received a squawk code for an instrument approach and had not yet been tagged up. Cause -- traffic not called by ATC (both aircraft mode C equipped). Also, lack of scanning by other aircraft. They didn't see us until very close. As they passed over us from behind, we weren't in a position to see them.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMA HAD AN NMAC WITH AN SMT. BOTH ACFT WERE DOING INST TRAINING IN MARGINAL WX, BUT THE RPTING ACFT WAS NOT YET UNDER ATC CTL.
Narrative: IN CLBING L TURN FROM 1500 FT HDG 270 DEGS TO 2000 FT, 180 DEGS, OVERFLOWN BY AN SMT ON HDG OF 270 DEGS, 2200 FT. OTHER ACFT CONDUCTING TRAINING ON IFR FLT PLAN. TFC NOT CALLED BY ATC FOR EITHER ACFT. WX -- LIGHT RAIN, APPROX 4 MI VISIBILITY. OUR ACFT HAD JUST RECEIVED A SQUAWK CODE FOR AN INST APCH AND HAD NOT YET BEEN TAGGED UP. CAUSE -- TFC NOT CALLED BY ATC (BOTH ACFT MODE C EQUIPPED). ALSO, LACK OF SCANNING BY OTHER ACFT. THEY DIDN'T SEE US UNTIL VERY CLOSE. AS THEY PASSED OVER US FROM BEHIND, WE WEREN'T IN A POS TO SEE THEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.