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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 218154 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199208 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mkc |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zkc |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 218154 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 75 |
| ASRS Report | 218156 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
There is a 'bonnr' and an 'otter' intersection on the jhawk 1 arrival to kansas city international. I understood the controller, (ZKC, low sector) to say 'cross bonnr intersection at 11000, 250 KTS.' I read back 'cross bonnr at 11000, 250 KTS,' very distinctively. Bonnr is about the same as the old 'hooze' intersection at the hooze arrival. The controller gave me a frequency change to kansas city approach control, and said 'by the way, you missed 'otter' intersection back there.' I stated 'I thought you said bonnr at 11000 and 250.' I asked him if there was a problem, or conflict, and he replied 'no, contact approach control. I suggest changing otter or bonnr because they sound alike.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CONFUSED BY SIMILAR SOUNDING INTXNS, MLG FAILS TO MEET ALT XING RESTRICTIONS.
Narrative: THERE IS A 'BONNR' AND AN 'OTTER' INTXN ON THE JHAWK 1 ARR TO KANSAS CITY INTL. I UNDERSTOOD THE CTLR, (ZKC, LOW SECTOR) TO SAY 'CROSS BONNR INTXN AT 11000, 250 KTS.' I READ BACK 'CROSS BONNR AT 11000, 250 KTS,' VERY DISTINCTIVELY. BONNR IS ABOUT THE SAME AS THE OLD 'HOOZE' INTXN AT THE HOOZE ARR. THE CTLR GAVE ME A FREQ CHANGE TO KANSAS CITY APCH CTL, AND SAID 'BY THE WAY, YOU MISSED 'OTTER' INTXN BACK THERE.' I STATED 'I THOUGHT YOU SAID BONNR AT 11000 AND 250.' I ASKED HIM IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM, OR CONFLICT, AND HE REPLIED 'NO, CONTACT APCH CTL. I SUGGEST CHANGING OTTER OR BONNR BECAUSE THEY SOUND ALIKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.