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Pilot claims that new approach controller frequency does not provide sufficient radio coverage for area. Unable to hear approach control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 210852 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199205 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dag |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : edw |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : edw |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 210852 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | other physical facility |
Narrative:
En route las-vny at 10000 at night. ZLA (132.5) issued a handoff to joshua approach (formerly edwards). Frequency given was 124.55, but usual frequency around george air force base is 133.15. We had to 'squelch' radios to hear joshua. They could hear us, but we could not hear them. I commented on this and they responded that they were combined up so it made no difference to him which frequency I was on. In the past, joshua/edwards would switch us halfway between vcv and palmdale. I learned from edwards that it is a new ZLA policy to give 124.55 and not 133.15 since george air force base is closing in june of 1992, but this is not okay with us as we cannot hear joshua.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT CLAIMS THAT NEW APCH CTLR FREQ DOES NOT PROVIDE SUFFICIENT RADIO COVERAGE FOR AREA. UNABLE TO HEAR APCH CTL.
Narrative: ENRTE LAS-VNY AT 10000 AT NIGHT. ZLA (132.5) ISSUED A HDOF TO JOSHUA APCH (FORMERLY EDWARDS). FREQ GIVEN WAS 124.55, BUT USUAL FREQ AROUND GEORGE AIR FORCE BASE IS 133.15. WE HAD TO 'SQUELCH' RADIOS TO HEAR JOSHUA. THEY COULD HEAR US, BUT WE COULD NOT HEAR THEM. I COMMENTED ON THIS AND THEY RESPONDED THAT THEY WERE COMBINED UP SO IT MADE NO DIFFERENCE TO HIM WHICH FREQ I WAS ON. IN THE PAST, JOSHUA/EDWARDS WOULD SWITCH US HALFWAY BTWN VCV AND PALMDALE. I LEARNED FROM EDWARDS THAT IT IS A NEW ZLA POLICY TO GIVE 124.55 AND NOT 133.15 SINCE GEORGE AIR FORCE BASE IS CLOSING IN JUNE OF 1992, BUT THIS IS NOT OKAY WITH US AS WE CANNOT HEAR JOSHUA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.