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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 210369 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199205 |
| Day | Tue |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sli airport : toa |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 275 flight time total : 30000 flight time type : 10 |
| ASRS Report | 210369 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While flight training in a light twin small aircraft with the owner over the catalina channel and on top of an overcast we were VFR. I was using the sli VOR and the avx VOR for position orientation. We were going through engine shutdown and xfeed procedures when I suddenly realized that my student had switched to the lax VOR and I did not see him do this. I immediately called coast approach and turned the airplane south. I don't believe we entered the TCA for coast approach did not say anything.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 30000 HR INSTRUCTOR PLT GIVING A BFR IN A LIGHT TWIN SMA DOES NOT NOTICE STUDENT CHANGING VOR FREQS DUE TO DISTR AND ALMOST ALLOWS STUDENT TO PENETRATE LAX TCA WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: WHILE FLT TRAINING IN A LIGHT TWIN SMA WITH THE OWNER OVER THE CATALINA CHANNEL AND ON TOP OF AN OVCST WE WERE VFR. I WAS USING THE SLI VOR AND THE AVX VOR FOR POS ORIENTATION. WE WERE GOING THROUGH ENG SHUTDOWN AND XFEED PROCS WHEN I SUDDENLY REALIZED THAT MY STUDENT HAD SWITCHED TO THE LAX VOR AND I DID NOT SEE HIM DO THIS. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED COAST APCH AND TURNED THE AIRPLANE S. I DON'T BELIEVE WE ENTERED THE TCA FOR COAST APCH DID NOT SAY ANYTHING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.