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Flight engineer on air carrier flight from mia to overwater destination concerned that 1 ADF inoperative operation does not meet the provisions of the MEL.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 210077 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199205 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mia |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 50 |
| ASRS Report | 210077 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight was dispatched from miami, fl to managua, nicaragua with 1 ADF inoperative. The first officer contacted dispatch and was told this was legal because our alternate was cancun, mexico rather than the usual alternate of pedro san sula, honduras. Upon consulting the international supplement the word (continued) follows the entry with no further information. It was assumed that this unseen information was what gave the dispatcher authorization to send us on our flight. Upon further discussion during the flight, the point was made that we couldn't be positive that we were in accordance with the MEL.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT ENGINEER ON ACR FLT FROM MIA TO OVERWATER DEST CONCERNED THAT 1 ADF INOP OP DOES NOT MEET THE PROVISIONS OF THE MEL.
Narrative: FLT WAS DISPATCHED FROM MIAMI, FL TO MANAGUA, NICARAGUA WITH 1 ADF INOP. THE FO CONTACTED DISPATCH AND WAS TOLD THIS WAS LEGAL BECAUSE OUR ALTERNATE WAS CANCUN, MEXICO RATHER THAN THE USUAL ALTERNATE OF PEDRO SAN SULA, HONDURAS. UPON CONSULTING THE INTL SUPPLEMENT THE WORD (CONTINUED) FOLLOWS THE ENTRY WITH NO FURTHER INFO. IT WAS ASSUMED THAT THIS UNSEEN INFO WAS WHAT GAVE THE DISPATCHER AUTHORIZATION TO SEND US ON OUR FLT. UPON FURTHER DISCUSSION DURING THE FLT, THE POINT WAS MADE THAT WE COULDN'T BE POSITIVE THAT WE WERE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MEL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.