Light transport taxis beyond hold line where cleared due to unusual placement and not using taxi lig...

Attributes
ACN	203861
Time
Date	199202
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pvd
State Reference	RI
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	203861
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Clearance issued to taxi from terminal to runway 34 and hold short of 5R. I thought there was another hold short line closer to the runway, but there wasn't. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states they were cleared to cross 5L which was not active, and taxied to position of normal hold line perpendicular to runway 5R. Problem was hold line was well back from that point, before taxiway C turns. Company tries to conserve on lights so taxi lights not on, but taxiway lights very visible. However, with no taxi lights, hold line not visible. Reporter just being cautious by submitting report.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: LTT TAXIS BEYOND HOLD LINE WHERE CLRED DUE TO UNUSUAL PLACEMENT AND NOT USING TAXI LIGHT.

Narrative: CLRNC ISSUED TO TAXI FROM TERMINAL TO RWY 34 AND HOLD SHORT OF 5R. I THOUGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER HOLD SHORT LINE CLOSER TO THE RWY, BUT THERE WASN'T. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THEY WERE CLRED TO CROSS 5L WHICH WAS NOT ACTIVE, AND TAXIED TO POS OF NORMAL HOLD LINE PERPENDICULAR TO RWY 5R. PROBLEM WAS HOLD LINE WAS WELL BACK FROM THAT POINT, BEFORE TAXIWAY C TURNS. COMPANY TRIES TO CONSERVE ON LIGHTS SO TAXI LIGHTS NOT ON, BUT TAXIWAY LIGHTS VERY VISIBLE. HOWEVER, WITH NO TAXI LIGHTS, HOLD LINE NOT VISIBLE. RPTR JUST BEING CAUTIOUS BY SUBMITTING RPT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Light transport taxis beyond hold line where cleared due to unusual placement and not using taxi light.