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Government light transport gets in proximity to other traffic in VFR descent procedure in proximity of clouds.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 200683 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199201 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : bos |
| State Reference | MA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bos |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 200683 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 4500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the afternoon of 1/mon/92, I was acting as copilot on a turbo light transport being used in right and D. It was VFR and we were descending out of 10500 ft MSL heading southwest. We descended between some broken clouds around 8500 ft MSL. Once below the clouds we started to turn (right) nwesterly. I looked to the right to clear the area and saw an airplane. At our 4 O'clock position at about 3/4 mi moving in approximately the same direction. I suggested the PIC delay further turn until we were through the other plane's altitude which was only a few seconds. No other action was taken or needed. The approach controller followed us to our landing airport (bed) and asked ground control to have us call him. The PIC called the controller by telephone to explain the events listed above. Apparently the other aircraft complained about our proximity. No other action was taken by the controller except to suggest we get radar advisories in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GOV LTT GETS IN PROX TO OTHER TFC IN VFR DSCNT PROC IN PROX OF CLOUDS.
Narrative: ON THE AFTERNOON OF 1/MON/92, I WAS ACTING AS COPLT ON A TURBO LTT BEING USED IN R AND D. IT WAS VFR AND WE WERE DSNDING OUT OF 10500 FT MSL HDG SW. WE DSNDED BTWN SOME BROKEN CLOUDS AROUND 8500 FT MSL. ONCE BELOW THE CLOUDS WE STARTED TO TURN (R) NWESTERLY. I LOOKED TO THE R TO CLR THE AREA AND SAW AN AIRPLANE. AT OUR 4 O'CLOCK POS AT ABOUT 3/4 MI MOVING IN APPROX THE SAME DIRECTION. I SUGGESTED THE PIC DELAY FURTHER TURN UNTIL WE WERE THROUGH THE OTHER PLANE'S ALT WHICH WAS ONLY A FEW SECONDS. NO OTHER ACTION WAS TAKEN OR NEEDED. THE APCH CTLR FOLLOWED US TO OUR LNDG ARPT (BED) AND ASKED GND CTL TO HAVE US CALL HIM. THE PIC CALLED THE CTLR BY TELEPHONE TO EXPLAIN THE EVENTS LISTED ABOVE. APPARENTLY THE OTHER ACFT COMPLAINED ABOUT OUR PROX. NO OTHER ACTION WAS TAKEN BY THE CTLR EXCEPT TO SUGGEST WE GET RADAR ADVISORIES IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.