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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 200212 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199201 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dbl |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 1 |
| ASRS Report | 200212 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : flight data |
| Qualification | controller : developmental |
| Experience | controller military : 5 |
| ASRS Report | 200707 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 25800 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was northwest of dbl VOR going direct sny. Air carrier Y had departed den climbing to FL310 going direct oal. As air carrier Y approached FL310 the radar information provided to me at the sector indicated that the 2 aircraft would pass with approximately 8 mi lateral separation. I then continued to climb air carrier Y to FL390, its final requested altitude. The 2 aircraft then came into conflict. Turns were issued to both aircraft, but were not sufficient to prevent loss of separation. Problems that I feel could have possibly contributed to loss of separation are: 1) unreliability of radar information provided at the sector. I.e. Jumping data blocks and, 2) radio communication problems. Air carrier X never did acknowledge clearance to turn. Supplemental information from acn 200707: aircraft X nebound FL330 direct sny. Air carrier Y den departure wbound requesting FL390 stopped at FL310 for aircraft X. Controller estimated aircraft Y would laterally be separated from aircraft X and climb Y to FL390.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CLBED THROUGH OCCUPIED ALT RESULTING LTSS.
Narrative: ACR X WAS NW OF DBL VOR GOING DIRECT SNY. ACR Y HAD DEPARTED DEN CLBING TO FL310 GOING DIRECT OAL. AS ACR Y APCHED FL310 THE RADAR INFO PROVIDED TO ME AT THE SECTOR INDICATED THAT THE 2 ACFT WOULD PASS WITH APPROX 8 MI LATERAL SEPARATION. I THEN CONTINUED TO CLB ACR Y TO FL390, ITS FINAL REQUESTED ALT. THE 2 ACFT THEN CAME INTO CONFLICT. TURNS WERE ISSUED TO BOTH ACFT, BUT WERE NOT SUFFICIENT TO PREVENT LOSS OF SEPARATION. PROBLEMS THAT I FEEL COULD HAVE POSSIBLY CONTRIBUTED TO LOSS OF SEPARATION ARE: 1) UNRELIABILITY OF RADAR INFO PROVIDED AT THE SECTOR. I.E. JUMPING DATA BLOCKS AND, 2) RADIO COM PROBLEMS. ACR X NEVER DID ACKNOWLEDGE CLRNC TO TURN. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 200707: ACFT X NEBOUND FL330 DIRECT SNY. ACR Y DEN DEP WBOUND REQUESTING FL390 STOPPED AT FL310 FOR ACFT X. CTLR ESTIMATED ACFT Y WOULD LATERALLY BE SEPARATED FROM ACFT X AND CLB Y TO FL390.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.